Microtransactions on a paid game?

[Vampirate]

I wish I hadn't bought this soon as I hit the store. I'd like to refund it. They added a cash shop to a game you already have to pay for to play. Not my cup of tea. Sad I'd been waiting a long time to jump in.

I dislike anticonsumer practices like this. I know people are going to say "IT'S OPTIONAL" but ultimately if you gate making your character's armor visual progression behind a pay wall, you're taking an essential part of the RPG experience.

[Ravenkid9266]

引用自 Ember：

I can definitely see EHG offering a "limited" trial in the future, but remember, the game is still in early access and big changes probably won't be seen until after release 1.0.

That was the original plan, F2P up to level 20 and the sticker price was only to curb bots. I do not see them going back to that model given the changes made and price increase.

[RhodosGuard]

引用自 Ember：

It's true, Last Epoch has an upfront cost *and* microtransactions. The difference, though, between Last Epoch and its biggest competitor, Path of Exile, is that you don't have to purchase stash tabs, which are almost mandatory in Path of Exile - if you're going to play the game seriously.

I can definitely see EHG offering a "limited" trial in the future, but remember, the game is still in early access and big changes probably won't be seen until after release 1.0.

Not really. The upfront box price is pretty much the difference.

As upset I am at a box priced game having an MTX store. I am almost more upset, that they refuse to implement core gameplay features first.

Like, 3 classes with almost 0 work done on them, but sure, MTX is the priority.

[Ember]

Path of Exile may be "F2P" by definition but your experience is arguably limited without stash tabs.

Regarding the matter of MTX Shop in 0.9.1,

EHG has a responsibility to its shareholders to maximize profits, so the MTX Shop was going to be introduced with or before 1.0. 1.0 will be out before the end of the year, so it's not far off, and according to AaronActionRPG (YouTuber) EHG has a massive update in store for 0.9.2.

I think it's fair to criticize the game, but only after 1.0. EHG is gearing up to make this into the next great live service ARPG.

[Ravenkid9266]

引用自 Ember：

EHG has a responsibility to its shareholders

Tencent, its cool you can just say tencent.

引用自 Ember：

massive[/b] update in store for 0.9.2.

Every "Update" has been "massive" and for the record 1.0 was set to come out in 2020, that statement EHG made is just as likely as any other statement.

引用自 Ember：

I think it's fair to criticize the game, but only after 1.0. EHG is gearing up to make this into the next great live service ARPG.

Great Googly Moogly, just lead with that next time, so I know not to engage.

[Ember]

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[[GSW]Iguana Iguodala]

wait until you see diablo 4's $70 purchase price + battle pass + other MTX

[Nekrolysis]

Normally this kind of uh...lets call it 'Criticism' doesn't bother me. But OP...Come on OP...You think games like Path of Exile just still exist today through the good will of the devs and player base? Just...how clueless are you? Underage? Poor?

[Gorynych]

引用自 GSWIguana Iguodala：

Diablo franchise is one of the most popular game series on the market. : )

[gustavodeluxe]

引用自 GSWIguana Iguodala：

wait until you see diablo 4's $70 purchase price + battle pass + other MTX

Yes but it s a quality game, just the impact spell on ennemie player feel when we play is just amazing unlike LE.

And just in case:
At least, a full production game with the new technologie requiert more money.

You know, just the fact to put a ray tracing in a game is very high price to make it.
It s a feature who latest graphic card can handle, but before they appears on a game, it s hour of line code to put.

Just think, when some game will use full functionnality of the 4000serie from nvidia, prepare your self to have 80$ base game.

Game price up no because dev are hungry, but, just because technologie evolution ask double hour of work.

As i remember, the solo dev who make bright memory (who is an exellent indie fps) just make 1 years to implement x ray tracing and dlss features on her game. The update was free, but, these feature not falling from sky, it have requiert time of work.

And that actually the probleme of last epoch, the cash shop on early acces, that mean one thing:
If playeer don t buy too mutch in the cash shop, the game have 100% to be released in way dev was not thinking.

More features= more money

[malichus]

Greed is what is practiced by the OP and his supporters. "Gimme, gimme, gimme!". Game prices have not changed in 25 years, despite the fact that today's games are gigabytes in size, not megabytes. Despite the fact that either all game developers are starving if they're being paid 90's wages, or profit margins are EXCEPTIONALLY less than they once were.

Despite this, the entitled, self-absorbed, "it's all about me" crowd that is far too pervasive in today's gaming culture insist that getting a game completed is not enough. They must also continue to support and update that game, and add to it over time, all for free. Trying to create a means of actually paying employees to do all this makes them "greedy" because how dare they not give me free stuff! I paid 1995 prices for the game, I'm entitled to everything they create for it!

Its one thing to complain about cash shops that give you advantages in playing the game, or worse, are the only way its possible to play. Complaining about a cash shop that just offers things to make your character look nicer, is just being a whiner. If you're playing this game you're not a 2-year old. So grow the hell up already.

[FredDie]

Pretty comon these days...could be even worse like diablo - very overprised, microtransactions AND paid battle pass every 3 months.

[Psycha]

引用自 Vampirate：

引用自 niaerniopawrjnko：

You would think that EHG would spend their resources on finishing the game before they start milking the playerbase. But I guess they realized that LE has no future since D4 is right around the corner so might as well make some quick bucks before abandoning the game

Well the funny thing was is I was specifically going to play LE BECAUSE D4 had turned me off with it's MTX/Battle Pass. Seeing footage of D4 got me in the mood for an ARPG and I figured I'd finally make the jump into LE which I'd bought forever ago.

I don't object to it in a freemium game, but it's just a way of doing business I can't support to put a cash shop in a game you charged up front for. Same reason I haven't gotten Marvel Midnight Suns even tho I reaaaallly wanna play that game.

This is why I made a post explaining why EHG chose such a bad time frame to release MTX RIGHT BEFORE D4 release... Like wth lol

At least release it later maybe 6 months after 1.0 when everything is at least stable.

The amount of bugs and broken items on this patch is insane and asking people to pay for cosmetics on top of all the bugs is criminal.

Imagine if Fallout 76 was asking for more and more money oh wait they did... Now it's dead xD

What if No man's sky had a sub fee? Ye dead..

[Sonic Mirage 🎸]

[phone]

OP hit the nail on the head.

LE is one of my most regrettable purchases ever on Steam.

Ever since Grim Dawn I've been waiting for another good ARPG to come along and now all I have to look forward to is POE2.

[Brother Kundari]

Well, it is offered yes, and I like many else will buy Cosmetics. Not much, but yes, some I will get. But I´m sure to get actual DLC too when that is arriving. I do care more about actual DLC then Cosmetics.

[Koala 4peace]

引用自 Vampirate：

引用自 Jon：

If you'd done any sort of minimal research before purchasing something, which you should always do, you would have known that having a microtransaction store was always part of the plan.

Except, I purchased before they announced a microtransaction store. Or if they had it was buried because I did google that specifically first.

Do not like the store either, but it is mathematically impossible for anyone to purchase this game before the MTX store announcement. This was a thing from kickstarter.

Still, they should have fixed quite a few things before implementing it.