Is this game backed by Tencent?

[mayrc]

Can anyone please confirm with source?
Because that menas instand bailout and deinstall as it is very much know where it will end.

[WazzzUppp]

I cant with people that act so high and mighty while they type on a keyboard that was made by slave child using a pc compenets probably also made by slave kids. Get off your high horse . Tencent is not any worse than every other corporation out there.

[Caz]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από mayrc:

Damn wish i had researched more before buying.... i fell so in love with Last epoch. Its a truly great ARPG. And in my opinion better than D4. However.... Tencent is such a RED FLAG.

THis game will decent into pay to win like all tencent games. There will be predatory shop concepts and FOMO.
EVERY Tencent game does this over time. Its their primary gaming concept. I have seen this far too often to be coincidence. Its a FACT.

Damn it.... Last epoch would have been my favorite ARPG. Got allready even hardcore chars.....

How could you sell your soul to the MOST predatory gaming Company on earth. Compared to Tencent Diablo immoral looks like a fair game.

I could cry realy.....

Embracer Group makes look Tencent look like saints. And they own far more than Tencent does. Not defending TC, just pointing out that they're not the worst.

[mayrc]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Caz:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από mayrc:

Damn wish i had researched more before buying.... i fell so in love with Last epoch. Its a truly great ARPG. And in my opinion better than D4. However.... Tencent is such a RED FLAG.

THis game will decent into pay to win like all tencent games. There will be predatory shop concepts and FOMO.
EVERY Tencent game does this over time. Its their primary gaming concept. I have seen this far too often to be coincidence. Its a FACT.

Damn it.... Last epoch would have been my favorite ARPG. Got allready even hardcore chars.....

How could you sell your soul to the MOST predatory gaming Company on earth. Compared to Tencent Diablo immoral looks like a fair game.

I could cry realy.....

Embracer Group makes look Tencent look like saints. And they own far more than Tencent does. Not defending TC, just pointing out that they're not the worst.

Everyone has his own experience and opinion. However lets keep facts. Tencent is the LARGEST gaming company in the world. Noone owns more.

[Chili Dogs]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WazzzUppp:

I cant with people that act so high and mighty while they type on a keyboard that was made by slave child using a pc compenets probably also made by slave kids. Get off your high horse . Tencent is not any worse than every other corporation out there.

Jokes on you, I built my own keyboard using cardboard, pop-sockets and my old high school electronics class breadboard.

[Ravenkid9266]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από mayrc:

Can anyone please confirm with source?
Because that menas instand bailout and deinstall as it is very much know where it will end.

So big question? did you get your confirmation and what are you personally going to do about it? are you going to uninstall?

[bacon.]

Tencent panic is pretty lazy, imo. These companies invest in many games. As long as the developers have control over their content I don't care. Tencent didn't seem to ruin everyone's opinion of Path of Exile. This is one of the best game in the genre already.

[AlienZeratul]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από mayrc:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από underd0g:

PoE was a way different game before Tencent. As I recall there were no new currencies and crafting 'materials' every season and hence no need to invest in specialized tabs. If that has to do with Tencent or just GGG becoming more greedy I do not know.

POE changed shortly after Tencent joined the scene. Its the same with darktide either.... before tencent (in vermintide2) it was a fair thing with a shop where you could always buy costumes with real cash and only need to pay for what you want. After tencent joined you have premium currency in the game and FOMO. And of course the game had only 5 maps at release but the shop was fully ready of course.

Sorry but the sheer number of games tencent is involved and they ALL "devolved" into same practice..... and you know what? In Every forum you find some clowns or paid voiced that defend Tencent practice. Last epoch will be NO different in the end.

So then i was wrong and there are currently things that fall under "pay to win" aspects?
I cannot remember having something like that during the first years after tencent went in. On my knowledge, buying stash tabs and (much fewer) cosmetics was a thing even before tencent.
And if it actually was no pay to win / pay to proceed (faster) stuff, why would it matter then? In Fortnite, people are also buying skins for millions/billions....

[Panic! At The Costco™]

I'm also not sure that Tencent is particularly alone or egregious in its pushing monetization. Without question it sucks, but there's a lot of companies doing that as investors - regardless of their nationality - push for profit growth over everything else. Companies have to oblige.

Probably at the forefront has been 2k with the NBA2k series. The monetization got so bad that it was actually banned in Belgium because it was basically gambling marketed towards children.

It's a completely legitimate reason to avoid a company but it's not unique to Tencent so it's just odd to single them out. But by all means, boycott their games if that kind of stuff that's taken over a good chunk of the gaming industry offends you.

[RodHull]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic! At The Costco™:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Zekken:

Oh I am sorry, do remind me, who is the USA keeping in camps, r**eing the women for laughs while they slowly sterilize and genocide them?

You miss the concentration camps on the US southern border for the last decade or something? All that ♥♥♥♥ has happened there. Or the treatment of its indigenous population, or the invasion of Iraq, or the massacres of people in Indonesia and on and on and on.

Yeah its fun how Americans will completely gloss over literally forcing the indigenous people of the continent into 'reservations' and treating them like animals but is very quick to point fingers 'Chyna' for its poor behaviour.

And that is not to belittle or excuse either, but any grown informed adult would not ask such a silly question.

And I say this as a Brit and we have pretty much a monopoly on treating people like garbage historically on a global scale. The damage we did is still felt to this day.

But if that poster wants an analog how about the camps where they keep children in cages and separate them from their parents (it held up to 2000 a day at one point). Or the illegal (by its own laws) torture camp it has run for over 2 decades on foreign shores to circumvent those laws.

I mean whataboutism aside, most modern large powerful countries have things that others can point at and rightly question morally. But to attribute those to companies from those countries is just a bit silly.

[RodHull]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic! At The Costco™:

I'm also not sure that Tencent is particularly alone or egregious in its pushing monetization. Without question it sucks, but there's a lot of companies doing that as investors - regardless of their nationality - push for profit growth over everything else. Companies have to oblige

One of the most fun contradictions you will see on gamer forums, is from the 'Tencent are an arm of the CCP' crowd but they will also without irony explain all the ways Tencent are a horrible Capitalist nightmare or money making... its a very odd form of dissonance.

[TheWashableBomb]

The amount of people defending Tencent and China is sus as hell

[GoatPimp]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από mayrc:

Damn wish i had researched more before buying.... i fell so in love with Last epoch. Its a truly great ARPG. And in my opinion better than D4. However.... Tencent is such a RED FLAG.

THis game will decent into pay to win like all tencent games. There will be predatory shop concepts and FOMO.
EVERY Tencent game does this over time. Its their primary gaming concept. I have seen this far too often to be coincidence. Its a FACT.

Damn it.... Last epoch would have been my favorite ARPG. Got allready even hardcore chars.....

How could you sell your soul to the MOST predatory gaming Company on earth. Compared to Tencent Diablo immoral looks like a fair game.

I could cry realy.....

go see a doctor

[LaeLena]

If only people who QQ about Tencent actually knew everything the company is involved in. Use Discord? Tencent. Play games by Ubisoft, Funcom, Riot, Supercell, FromSoftware, Fatshark, PlatinumGmaes etc? Tencent. Bought games on Epic? Tencent.

[Panic! At The Costco™]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LaeLena:

If only people who QQ about Tencent actually knew everything the company is involved in. Use Discord? Tencent. Play games by Ubisoft, Funcom, Riot, Supercell, FromSoftware, Fatshark, PlatinumGmaes etc? Tencent. Bought games on Epic? Tencent.

I didn't know about a few of those.

Scanning through the people in this thread who object to Tencent and lecture other people about supporting them, every single one owns games funded by Tencent investment. Big oof.

[RodHull]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic! At The Costco™:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LaeLena:

If only people who QQ about Tencent actually knew everything the company is involved in. Use Discord? Tencent. Play games by Ubisoft, Funcom, Riot, Supercell, FromSoftware, Fatshark, PlatinumGmaes etc? Tencent. Bought games on Epic? Tencent.

I didn't know about a few of those.

Scanning through the people in this thread who object to Tencent and lecture other people about supporting them, every single one owns games funded by Tencent investment. Big oof.

Yep I said this before in another thread.

Epic is the big one, cause like who doesn't own a game that uses their engine?

I'll wait :)