Smart loot when?

[Tubsie]

Do you have plans on implementing a smart loot system? The more annoying thing for me currently is, I keep finding level 40 or lower items at level 85... like... yeah. That should not be a thing. Will this be fixed in the future?

[andrew.thiele]

The level requirement of each piece of loot is determined by the ilvl of the base item + the number of and tier levels of affixes on the item. There are many base items with low ilvl's that people will still likely want to use in their builds. An item having a low level of requirement to use does not equate to a bad item that you wouldn't want to use at higher character levels.

For unique and set items they are given a certain level requirement by the developers. However, uniques can have their ilvl's increased in the same fashion as normal/magic/rare/exalted items if they have legendary potential and have 1-4 affixes added to them via the Eternity Cache to make them a legendary item.

If you really don't want to see certain item bases, types, rarities, etc. then it's best to create a loot filter that's tailored around your build. You can even filter by item level requirement but, as I've mentioned above, you may miss out on items that could be helpful (or even necessary) for your build.

[Tubsie]

I do have a loot filter yes. But comparing the base stats that some items come with, low vs high, the higher level items have sometimes added base stats along with higher stats (like polearms). I think that's kinda the problem. I am using a pretty low level off-hand catalyst for my mage that gives very nice ward regen and spell power. And yet, I have not found a similar one in the higher levels. And to replace a stat from an item to actually get a specific stat on the item is too much RNG. Even just 1 stat off can make it a useless one which is annoying.

So if a level 30-40 item has better stats than a level 70+ item of same type, then there's something off. The grind for RNG is kinda off putting.

Edit: Annoying thing about uniques: Yesterday I completed an echo which gave me a guaranteed unique item. Well... surprise surprise, it was a low level torch melee weapon which I've gotten like 5 times or so already. Why are high level echos dropping low level uniques? I doubt it's difficult to code in to exclude low level uniques from those nodes. Doesn't feel rewarding.

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by Tubsie:

I do have a loot filter yes. But comparing the base stats that some items come with, low vs high, the higher level items have sometimes added base stats along with higher stats (like polearms). I think that's kinda the problem. I am using a pretty low level off-hand catalyst for my mage that gives very nice ward regen and spell power. And yet, I have not found a similar one in the higher levels. And to replace a stat from an item to actually get a specific stat on the item is too much RNG. Even just 1 stat off can make it a useless one which is annoying.

That's why u seal an affix. Rather than try removing it and replacing it. Ruin of removal is better used to get the max shards of an affix u need. Rather than using it to try replacing a stat u don't want.

By sealing an affix u open up that slot for a new mod as well as the gear keeping that stat. Now this rare will have 5 affix on it. Sealed also is locked into the tier it was sealed at. Cannot be upgraded.

As for getting a better catalyst. The game is balanced around players having to craft there items. Chances are u had a few good bases that would have been upgrades if u crafted on it.

In LE ur not looking for a rare item to replace another rare item. But looking for stats to upgrade or shatter for the shards. It's different in LE. The majority of gear upgrades comes from crafting rather than it actually dropping.

[Tubsie]

Yes, I have done stat upgrading and replacing sometimes. But you still have to find that item that has good enough RNG regarding the original stats. You can replace 1 or 2 with some luck sure. But some of the item stats make no sense. Like some have increased fire melee damage, but then a random increase to poison damage.

Also forging potential is a thing, and the idea of using possibly many runes on a single item to get that single better stat for a possibly not too long of a period is kinda tricky, since you need to consider saving those runes for other characters as well. I don't remember how rare those runes/glyphs (always mix'em up) were that remove a stat or lock a stat in place are though. I know some I only have under 10.

I just played a bit with my paladin who is level 61 now. I found more better stat catalysts in that level echoes than with my mage in level 90 echos. That makes no sense. With my mage, it's rare to find an off-hand that would actually have better ward per second and ward retention % than the lower level ones.

It's not all bad, nope. I just wish the higher level items would actually have better stats as base than the lower area ones.

[ุ]

Each base item have their own implicits. It is true that you will have a harder time finding a Rune Stone off-hand catalyst at lvl 90 than at lvl 46. Because at your level, all the off-hand catalysts bases with their own implicits are on your loot table. @lvl 90 you have 1/15 chance of getting a rune stone whenever an off-hand catalyst drops. @lvl 46 you have 1/7.

THis is why you need to use the filter to target farm the specific base item with the exact number of desired affixes and their tier levels. That way you don't have to check every single item that drops.

[Tubsie]

And since I also need other stat upgrades (like resistances for example), I guess I need to add multiple loot filters then. :/ Not sure what you mean with the "Because at your level, all the off-hand catalysts bases with their own implicits are added to your loot table.". But thanks for the tip though. I'll look into making a more niche loot filters.