Hardcore VS Standard Modes

[taloN]

What is the difference? Incentives? Bonus EXP? Bonus rate drop %?

It seems to be worth going Hardcore every time because if you die you at least keep the character. But what is the catch? There really isn't any reason or risk to it if there is no bonus incentives. So what, you beat the content without dying once..? Did you earn anything for it besides self-gratification? At least tell me drop rates are better and you get slightly better EXP. Please.

[makinaccion]

There's no bonus nor any particular benefit, it's the very same game but with the training wheels off.

[Ethyls]

It's for people who want permadeath. The incentive is that they get permadeath.

[Bootleg VHS]

The appeal in Hardcore, and why it shows up in so many of these games, is the change in player experience. It slows the game down, makes you care about defenses, and adds a unique level of intensity you just can't find anywhere else. The moment to moment gameplay sticks out more, and you can't just mindlessly rush to the boss. Likewise you're always making another build in the back of your head with loot you get in case your current character dies, or maybe you're far enough to farm for a new character safely, so it's a good time to pivot without pushing further. Even during the game's slower sections, there's always something else to consider, and there's always the omnipresent threat of permadeath.

That said, some people take it way too seriously, and need to understand that this is a preference, and not the only/best way to play the game. HC is a massive time sink that demands mastery of the game's mechanics. So if you don't have the spare time for it, or are otherwise unwilling to put that much time into the game for whatever reason, it's probably not a mode for you.

If you've never tried HC mode in an ARPG, it can be a fun experiment when the servers are more stable to see if you end up preferring it to the standard game mode.

[Kmany]

Back when i played poe i only ever played on hardcore mode..
And it brings more adrenaline when it gets close and you care more when you die.
Nowadays i cant really be arsed to play hc tho.. i dont have the time to start over when a level 70 or something dies..

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by Ethyls:

It's for people who want permadeath. The incentive is that they get permadeath.

Problem is there is no permanent death in LE. Tbh HC is pointless in le.

U also have a deathless tag on ur character already

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by Iainidus:

if you die in hardcore on this you just get put into standard? and if you dont actually lose your character then there is both no risk or reward? at least in path of exile you get better loot till you die and put into standard so there is reward or in diablo your character actually dies so there is risk? I'm confused by the point of it in this game, are the enemies at least stronger? or maybe an achievement at the very least if you beat it without dying? lol seems a bit silly to me if you get none of those things

Only point to HC in LE is the hard-core ladder. There is no permadeath. U die ur climb on HC ladder is done and u just move to SC

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by taloN:

What is the difference? Incentives? Bonus EXP? Bonus rate drop %?

It seems to be worth going Hardcore every time because if you die you at least keep the character. But what is the catch? There really isn't any reason or risk to it if there is no bonus incentives. So what, you beat the content without dying once..? Did you earn anything for it besides self-gratification? At least tell me drop rates are better and you get slightly better EXP. Please.

Why does there need to be some sort of incentive to play HC such as better drops more exp ext.

Imo there shouldn't be any just like playing in a party. U should want to play HC for permadeath or party play cuz u want to not what bonuses ur getting out of it.

[Recks]

Originally posted by Ethyls:

It's for people who want permadeath. The incentive is that they get permadeath.

Well last epoch hardcore isn't hardcore, there's no punishment, ur char dies it just goes to softcore mode with all the normal players. It's a joke really. Don't think EHG has any clue what they're doing and just shows how out of touch they are with what makes arpgs great

[Kmany]

Originally posted by Recks:

Originally posted by Ethyls:

It's for people who want permadeath. The incentive is that they get permadeath.

Well last epoch hardcore isn't hardcore, there's no punishment, ur char dies it just goes to softcore mode with all the normal players. It's a joke really. Don't think EHG has any clue what they're doing and just shows how out of touch they are with what makes arpgs great

Thats how POE used to be back in the day when i played it as well..
I think it is a good system.

[Ravenkid9266]

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Why does there need to be some sort of incentive to play HC such as better drops more exp ext.

If you need some incentive to participate in something, you don't really enjoy that thing you are just chasing the inventive.

[baz]

Originally posted by Kmany:

Originally posted by Recks:

Well last epoch hardcore isn't hardcore, there's no punishment, ur char dies it just goes to softcore mode with all the normal players. It's a joke really. Don't think EHG has any clue what they're doing and just shows how out of touch they are with what makes arpgs great

Thats how POE used to be back in the day when i played it as well..
I think it is a good system.

Yeah, it's still the same in POE. If you die you switch to softcore and can no longer access your hardcore vault. You then most likely delete the character anyway, in order to re-use their name for your next hardcore character.

[< This is Dota, pitch! >]

I just laugh when I read that "If you die on Hardcore, you just stop playing Hardcore and it's not death."

It's literally death and loss for your hardcore character with no right of return. It devalues everything you've done in this race. Is this the death of a hardcore character?

[Gray Knight]

Originally posted by < This is Dota, pitch! >:

I just laugh when I read that "If you die on Hardcore, you just stop playing Hardcore and it's not death."

It's literally death and loss for your hardcore character with no right of return. It devalues everything you've done in this race. Is this the death of a hardcore character?

Yes. Its the death of your character in hardcore not the death of the character permently