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X Lord X 2023 年 3 月 10 日 下午 8:29
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the game is just not fun.
fun is a funny word, butt this game just really isnt fun, you see strteamers who are playing it but ALL referring about the game is a very generic way about it.

the game is just not good. I feel tricked into the devs promisies as the best arpg, but sadly it just isn't .

4/10 as far as RPG's go.

i know peop0le are a little deluded and thinking this is the best game to overtake diablo or POE but it's no where close unfortunately. Watch some streams, the streamers are pretending to be enthuasitc but they really aren't enjoying the game.
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引用自 WhiteReaper:
引用自 Markness：
You say it sucks but you don't say why exactly, you just talk about streamers..? Please work on making a coherent post next time.
the post is coherent. you just deluded.. this game is no fun. His opinion and mine us well
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Senki 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 Bleezip：
"It's the best arpg ever made. With the same itemization as Diablo 3, battlepass, season pass, mtx, and "not pay to win element" just as Diablo Immortal didn't have pay to win elements."

Ok, weird-o. Also quality. Lol.

It doesn't have the same itemization as diablo 3 and Last epoch will be full of mtx

And yes it literally isn't pay to win either. They confirmed it's just cosmetics.

The usual clueless sheeps that jump on the hate train without knowing anything and fanboying over games that do the exact same thing if not worse. Funny

Have fun paying for skins that look 10 times worse than Diablo just because your fellow redditors and youtubers told you to hate everything blizzard does.
最后由 Senki 编辑于; 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 2:53
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AtmaShinobi 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 3:00 
What reasons do you not find it fun? Because the streamers you follow dont look like their having fun so you cant possibly enjoy it? typical npc mode. go away. and you too wespe, annoying little twot, your takes are beyond low IQ. My dogs have more cognitive functions than you.
#32
wespe___o=/;;;:* 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 3:02 
引用自 AtmaShinobi：
...My dogs have more cognitive functions than you.
Blind dogs - my condolences :cozycastondeath:
#33
RodHull 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 3:06 
I'd say its a 6/10 (4/10 is a bit harsh) but I do find it strange how attached people are to it yes.

I think its a combination of the genre being generally starved of new games and a lot of people are fatigued with POE and simply don't like Blizzard any longer, so they want so much to believe this is the next big game.
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sadman 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:06 
引用自 Senki：
引用自 Bleezip：
"It's the best arpg ever made. With the same itemization as Diablo 3, battlepass, season pass, mtx, and "not pay to win element" just as Diablo Immortal didn't have pay to win elements."

Ok, weird-o. Also quality. Lol.

It doesn't have the same itemization as diablo 3 and Last epoch will be full of mtx

And yes it literally isn't pay to win either. They confirmed it's just cosmetics.

The usual clueless sheeps that jump on the hate train without knowing anything and fanboying over games that do the exact same thing if not worse. Funny

Have fun paying for skins that look 10 times worse than Diablo just because your fellow redditors and youtubers told you to hate everything blizzard does.
True. Its seems like some hate train now for Diablo 4 i wanna try it by myself don't care about haters and fanboys
#35
wespe___o=/;;;:* 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:09 
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引用自 sadman：
True. Its seems like some hate train now for Diablo 4 i wanna try it by myself don't care about haters and fanboys
D4 is great. CU next week :cosmopig:
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wespe___o=/;;;:* 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 RodHull：
I'd say its a 6/10 (4/10 is a bit harsh) but I do find it strange how attached people are to it yes.
I think its a combination of the genre being generally starved of new games and a lot of people are fatigued with POE and simply don't like Blizzard any longer, so they want so much to believe this is the next big game.
Last Epoch was a solid 5-6 in 2020/21, but now?? Nope. 4/10 seems fair
Also UNDECEMBER was not bad. Quite solid until they added Act11 in January. Now it´s still better than LastEpoch, but not #Top5 anymore
最后由 wespe___o=/;;;:* 编辑于; 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:14
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sadman 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:14 
引用自 wespe___o=/:*：
引用自 sadman：
True. Its seems like some hate train now for Diablo 4 i wanna try it by myself don't care about haters and fanboys
D4 is great. CU next week :cosmopig:
Ye i can't wait for early access to try it. Playing while demo of Resident evil 4 remake. Would be cool though have released game already now so i just would play Resident evil 4 remake till early acess beta of Diablo 4
#38
Koala 4peace 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:23 
Honestly, is like every other looter hack'n slash since D1. A stagnant genre in which improvements came at snail's pace.
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wespe___o=/;;;:* 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:30 
引用自 Koala 4peace：
Honestly, is like every other looter hack'n slash since D1. A stagnant genre in which improvements came at snail's pace.
OP be careful. This guy? is full of lies and shills for EHG.
最后由 wespe___o=/;;;:* 编辑于; 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:30
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Echo 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:30 
引用自 Baronfuming：
I've fallen asleep twice while playing this game since yesterday. I think the actual gameplay isn't as fun as building a character.
I think this hits the nail on the head. I have a lot of hours (relatively) in Last Epoch but I have to agree that the gameplay itself isn't particularly fun. I've spent most of that on creating, leveling and testing builds.

The biggest issue is lack of variety and fun things to do in monolith or campaigns. Lack of exploration and discovery, an unbalanced reward system and a loot mechanic that rarely proved exciting.
最后由 Echo 编辑于; 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:32
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wespe___o=/;;;:* 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:35 
引用自 Echo：
The biggest issue is lack of variety and fun things to do in monolith or campaigns. Lack of exploration and discovery, an unbalanced reward system and a loot mechanic that rarely proved exciting.
:steamthis: Funny. We pointed that out in 2020/21 - nothing was really fixed..
2 years later the 0.9 version is actually much worse than 0.8.2 :cozycastondeath:
最后由 wespe___o=/;;;:* 编辑于; 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:37
#42
Koala 4peace 2023 年 3 月 11 日 下午 4:40 
引用自 wespe___o=/:*：
引用自 Koala 4peace：
Honestly, is like every other looter hack'n slash since D1. A stagnant genre in which improvements came at snail's pace.
OP be careful. This guy? is full of lies and shills for EHG.
The projection is strong on this one. XD XD XD
#43
RodHull 2023 年 3 月 12 日 上午 7:11 
引用自 Echo：
引用自 Baronfuming：
I've fallen asleep twice while playing this game since yesterday. I think the actual gameplay isn't as fun as building a character.
I think this hits the nail on the head. I have a lot of hours (relatively) in Last Epoch but I have to agree that the gameplay itself isn't particularly fun. I've spent most of that on creating, leveling and testing builds.

The biggest issue is lack of variety and fun things to do in monolith or campaigns. Lack of exploration and discovery, an unbalanced reward system and a loot mechanic that rarely proved exciting.

I mean to some extent the genre itself suffers from this issue, but yes its particularly noticeable in LE because all the bells and whistles that distract you from that in other games, simply aren't up to scratch here.
#44
Ravenkid9266 2023 年 3 月 12 日 上午 7:26 
引用自 RodHull：
引用自 Echo：
I think this hits the nail on the head. I have a lot of hours (relatively) in Last Epoch but I have to agree that the gameplay itself isn't particularly fun. I've spent most of that on creating, leveling and testing builds.

The biggest issue is lack of variety and fun things to do in monolith or campaigns. Lack of exploration and discovery, an unbalanced reward system and a loot mechanic that rarely proved exciting.

As for the bells and whistles, I mean how long did it take for people to even notice that Shadow Master was giving only 2% as opposed to the stated 20%. Just one glaring example of having so much already people took how long to even notice.

I mean to some extent the genre itself suffers from this issue, but yes its particularly noticeable in LE because all the bells and whistles that distract you from that in other games, simply aren't up to scratch here.

I think this is true, however it is not necessary a bad thing. Had LE positioned itself as the casual new to the genre game that it actually is, I think people would be able to look at it more fondly, I know I sure would. A lot of people have fond memories about their first introduction Wizard101 got a lot of people into the mmo space for example.

However with the disconnect of LE trying to position itself with the big boys the flaws just feel more harsh then necessary. That is not to say that LE could not be successful appealing to the casual market, well at least when it was a much smaller team with more focused goals. With the expansion of the team, and such grandiose plans for future content, well to quote a streamer "no one cares if the game play loop is scuffed"
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