Last Epoch Trade Survey

[EHG_Kain]

Greetings, Travelers. we want to address the feedback we’re seeing that many of you are disappointed about trade in Last Epoch being limited to Item Gifting.

While this system will not change for our nearing 0.9 release and our priority remains the same: keeping Last Epoch’s loot system rewarding for solo play and not sacrificing that for trade, we would ideally like to find a solution that pleases everyone and makes trading fans feel like they can fully enjoy Last Epoch. It’s entirely possible that we were incorrect when we concluded that there wasn’t a more expansive trade system that would both satisfy people who want trade and not overshadow item drops and crafting.

One way in which we may have been mistaken is in our assumptions about which ways of constraining trade players would be ok with, and which they would not.

We are asking for your feedback with a short survey to help us steer in the right direction. If you would prefer Last Epoch not to have trade or not to have trade beyond the existing item gifting system, please still answer the questions from the perspective of what types of trade you would be most ok with.

If you would like to participate in this survey, you can do so here: https://forms.gle/m3G39NHnUju2z22GA

[Pirewen]

Very Simple.... Stick to the basics with minor tweaks. Make an AH, but limit it to all items except uniques. If you really want to have a set of random gear that can't be bought, add a special "rarer or elite" category of item that is completely random stat rolled with better stat caps and untradable. Make this type of item lower drop chance to make it more of a grind to min/max.

[Captain Obvious]

For me any form of trading other then an Auction house will ruin the game.

[Spillspore]

what is this auction house bs? Just trade between players.

[oldschooldiablo]

Автор сообщения: Spillspore

what is this auction house bs? Just trade between players.

it helps to stop bots wont stop all of them but will be less. well as players scamming others and needing to use a third party app/site to trade.

[M.Bison]

you can only gift items which dropped while grouped with those players. you cant trade with random players, and the "AH" was a feature that got the game funded. path of exile trading is awful due to the hoops players have to go through to find a person not willing to scam you.

[Hart]

A few very loud people are blowing this out of proportion, but this survey misses the point entirely.

I want to be able to trade so I can deterministically attain build-enabling items that are otherwise only attainable through RNG.

Anything beyond that seems like a net negative. If you've played Path of Exile for long you'll be well aware that there are "hideout heros" who play that game exclusively by trading items, to the detriment of people who actually want to play the damn game. People engage in price fixing, scamming, exploiting newbies, etc and GGG utterly fails to fix it.

So I'm fine with limited trade, I'm fine with somewhat limited drop rates in exchange, whatever keeps the gold farmers from buying up all the best items for in-game currency and holding them hostage for a cash ransom.

Not having trade at all, though, means that finding a cool build online and wanting to try it out yourself may be impossible if you don't already have a copy of the necessary build-enabling uniques. It means hording a copy of every unique and set piece you ever find because you might need it later, resulting in a bloated stash full of primarily garbage.

[Koala 4peace]

Автор сообщения: Hart

A few very loud people are blowing this out of proportion, but this survey misses the point entirely.

I want to be able to trade so I can deterministically attain build-enabling items that are otherwise only attainable through RNG.

Anything beyond that seems like a net negative. If you've played Path of Exile for long you'll be well aware that there are "hideout heros" who play that game exclusively by trading items, to the detriment of people who actually want to play the damn game. People engage in price fixing, scamming, exploiting newbies, etc and GGG utterly fails to fix it.

So I'm fine with limited trade, I'm fine with somewhat limited drop rates in exchange, whatever keeps the gold farmers from buying up all the best items for in-game currency and holding them hostage for a cash ransom.

Not having trade at all, though, means that finding a cool build online and wanting to try it out yourself may be impossible if you don't already have a copy of the necessary build-enabling uniques. It means hording a copy of every unique and set piece you ever find because you might need it later, resulting in a bloated stash full of primarily garbage.

Sounds reasonable enough...

[MadDawg2552]

If you are going to nerf drops for trades, how about giving us an option at character creation that prevents trade entirely for an increased drop rate of items?

Edit: Also use an auction house that automatically sets prices for items based on the stats that item has instead of whatever price the player sets. You know there are going to be people price gouging by buying up all the best stuff and then putting it back up for 10x what they paid for it.

[hellkn]

IMO, it`s definitivelly not a problem to not have trade house and being limited to item gifting, AFAIK.
And my main complain is not about trade system but instead about Falconer, Runemaster and Warlock masteries are still missing

[M.Bison]

Those masteries were not promised in the kickstarter. It was 10 and not 15 so those are extra masteries. You've already got everything that was promised when people could back the game originally.

Trade on the other hand....

[muntronaxio]

Автор сообщения: Paper Paulo

And my main complain is not about trade system but instead about Falconer, Runemaster and Warlock masteries are still missing

You won't see them before 1.0 (official release) so no need to be upset ;)

[MEEP]

Almost can't believe it's even a question... it was promised as a kickstarter option. tons of people latched onto that and you should deliver it, anything else is just textbook bait and switch. Why not just make a SSF mode if you really want players to be able to play that way.