Last Epoch vs. Path of Exile: Which has better graphics?

[RASTAN]

Opinions?

[jV]

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

.. are you kids just trolling? PoE is infamous for its trash graphics and lighting. even ignoring the fact that its a 10 year old game based on a 20+ year old game the idea is to keep it running on ancient hardware so it can get more players to buy cosmetic filth that just ends up making lobbies look like visual vomit.

why even make comparisons? does it make you feel intelligent to name drop pop filth everyone knows about or something? do you buy ice cream and then go on forums to post nonsense about how the hue of french vanilla is different and therefore somehow better than regular vanilla?

how about going and playing a different game (or find another hobby) if threads like THIS are your motivation to play video games.

have you played PoE on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system? I used to have a fx-8350 cpu with a hard drive and the game was nearly unplayable. if you don't have 16gb of ram and run chrome in the background, your system will bottleneck, too. just stop the nonsense.

[Holombo]

I have more fun in last epoch

[VukasinDordevic]

Diablo 2 Resurrected!

[mirkiekishka]

Battle Tank님이 먼저 게시:

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

.. are you kids just trolling? PoE is infamous for its trash graphics and lighting. even ignoring the fact that its a 10 year old game based on a 20+ year old game the idea is to keep it running on ancient hardware so it can get more players to buy cosmetic filth that just ends up making lobbies look like visual vomit.

why even make comparisons? does it make you feel intelligent to name drop pop filth everyone knows about or something? do you buy ice cream and then go on forums to post nonsense about how the hue of french vanilla is different and therefore somehow better than regular vanilla?

how about going and playing a different game (or find another hobby) if threads like THIS are your motivation to play video games.

have you played PoE on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system? I used to have a fx-8350 cpu with a hard drive and the game was nearly unplayable. if you don't have 16gb of ram and run chrome in the background, your system will bottleneck, too. just stop the nonsense.

True, they sound like they never played poe, or didn't play in the last couple of years for sure. BTW, I like both games, I don't care about graphics, but POE really improved it's graphics since it came out, of course, and looks great now, optimization is not great though. I am really looking forward to release of LE and POE2 and diablo 2 and 4, we have exciting stuff in the future. :D

[Blowfeld]

Chays님이 먼저 게시:

path of exile looks a lot better.... but.. an real arpg fan looks not at graphic.

Real ARPG fans don't mind having an excellent graphic with great gameplay neither ;)

[bunker]

wolcen has the best graphics

[Secret]

mirkiekishka님이 먼저 게시:

Battle Tank님이 먼저 게시:

have you played PoE on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system? I used to have a fx-8350 cpu with a hard drive and the game was nearly unplayable. if you don't have 16gb of ram and run chrome in the background, your system will bottleneck, too. just stop the nonsense.

True, they sound like they never played poe, or didn't play in the last couple of years for sure. BTW, I like both games, I don't care about graphics, but POE really improved it's graphics since it came out, of course, and looks great now, optimization is not great though. I am really looking forward to release of LE and POE2 and diablo 2 and 4, we have exciting stuff in the future. :D

right, never played it>
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how long have YOU been playing it?

why would i play ANY game on a turd computer? the fact that it runs on xbox one tells me it isnt particularly demanding on hardware (maybe some people just dont know how to properly optimize their computers). i mean.. a chrome user is to be taken seriously at this point? since they are running such a trash configuration could it be possible they are comparing 720p? because comparing 4k to 4k last epoch looks way crisper.

bunker님이 먼저 게시:

wolcen has the best graphics

thats probably the worst thing about the game, it does visually look good, but its about as deep as the kiddie pool.

[Astasia]

PoE looks significantly better than LE. I think even PoE from 5 years ago was still probably better looking in execution. Graphics aren't just about number of polygons, there's also artistic quality which is where PoE really shines over LE, with proportionate characters and believable animations. The current PoE character models are obviously much lower poly, but in the end they look better even before putting armor on them (recent armor in PoE is miles ahead of LE) just because they don't look "wrong." The new Rogue model looks like a child (oversized head) wearing a pair of onesie pajamas (no hip/butt at all) for example.

LE has some better level design on average, more interesting things happening on the levels and in the backgrounds. PoE is better in character design, animations, gear design, lighting, skill effects, enemy design, and performance. Those are all factors of "graphics" and there is just no competition.

[Secret]

Astasia님이 먼저 게시:

PoE looks significantly better than LE. I think even PoE from 5 years ago was still probably better looking in execution. Graphics aren't just about number of polygons, there's also artistic quality which is where PoE really shines over LE, with proportionate characters and believable animations. The current PoE character models are obviously much lower poly, but in the end they look better even before putting armor on them (recent armor in PoE is miles ahead of LE) just because they don't look "wrong." The new Rogue model looks like a child (oversized head) wearing a pair of onesie pajamas (no hip/butt at all) for example.

LE has some better level design on average, more interesting things happening on the levels and in the backgrounds. PoE is better in character design, animations, gear design, lighting, skill effects, enemy design, and performance. Those are all factors of "graphics" and there is just no competition.

you are talking about art assets, not graphics. you LIKE the "character design" better in PoE and thats fine, but it has nothing to do with having better graphics. "enemy design" = artistic choice.

"Graphics aren't just about number of polygons".. no really they are though. the "graphics" have improved over the generations BECAUSE the hardware can push more polygons.

im at a loss how to deal with someone like you.. youre essentially saying "a mcdonalds hamburger >>tastes<< better than a properly prepared steak because it comes in a colorful wrapper".

[Astasia]

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

im at a loss how to deal with someone like you.. youre essentially saying "a mcdonalds hamburger >>tastes<< better than a properly prepared steak because it comes in a colorful wrapper".

This statement is pretty ironic considering how fitting it is. PoE is the old fashioned steak on the grill, it's not as fancy but it's done right. Last Epoch is the microwaved McDonald's burger in a fancy wrapper, it's done all wrong and tastes terrible, but you are so distracted by the wrapper and the new fangled processed meat technology that you are claiming it's better.

There is subjective art criticism and objective art criticism. Inconsistent character proportions, constantly recycled and limited assets, janky animations, those are all objective flaws in graphical design.

For the record, I'd rather eat a McDonald's hamburger than any steak in the world. Just because something is objectively inferior doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

[Secret]

Astasia님이 먼저 게시:

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

im at a loss how to deal with someone like you.. youre essentially saying "a mcdonalds hamburger >>tastes<< better than a properly prepared steak because it comes in a colorful wrapper".

This statement is pretty ironic considering how fitting it is. PoE is the old fashioned steak on the grill, it's not as fancy but it's done right. Last Epoch is the microwaved McDonald's burger in a fancy wrapper, it's done all wrong and tastes terrible, but you are so distracted by the wrapper and the new fangled processed meat technology that you are claiming it's better.

There is subjective art criticism and objective art criticism. Inconsistent character proportions, constantly recycled and limited assets, janky animations, those are all objective flaws in graphical design.

For the record, I'd rather eat a McDonald's hamburger than any steak in the world. Just because something is objectively inferior doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

um, no. you are saying PoE has "better graphics" because YOU prefer their "art style". you may also want to note that last epoch is in EARLY ACCESS and hasnt already been out for about 10 years, so they certainly have time to deal with "constantly recycled and limited assets" which have NOTHING to do with graphics. "character proportions and janky animations"? you do comprehend that the game is still in development AND less frames of animations can only make it easier to run (higher fps's, less crashes.. or would you rather people complain about those things incessantly too) right? because you definitely dont seem to comprehend what graphics are.

"Just because something is objectively inferior doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. " is that on your family crest or something??

[Astasia]

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

um, no. you are saying PoE has "better graphics" because YOU prefer their "art style".

No I actually really dislike the PoE art style, it's a bit too gritty. I much prefer something like the Diablo 3 style. The style LE is going with could work pretty well if it was executed better and more consistent. I really enjoy the top banner art for the game for example.

Secret님이 먼저 게시:

you may also want to note that last epoch is in EARLY ACCESS and hasnt already been out for about 10 years, so they certainly have time to deal with "constantly recycled and limited assets" which have NOTHING to do with graphics. "character proportions and janky animations"? you do comprehend that the game is still in development AND less frames of animations can only make it easier to run (higher fps's, less crashes.. or would you rather people complain about those things incessantly too) right? because you definitely dont seem to comprehend what graphics are.

None of that was relevant to this discussion. The question was not, "Which will have better graphics at some point in the future?" Your assumption that the LE graphics are going to improve much at this late point in development is also pretty optimistic. PoE on the other hand has the 4.0 update coming out "soon" that is further upgrading the entire look of the game and from what has been shown it unquestionably will put it at the top of the genre in graphics quality, above even D4. But again, not what is being discussed here. This is a thread asking what people's opinions are on the current state of each game's graphics. That you need to constantly attack and argue with other people's opinions in this thread about opinions is a bit strange. What exactly is your objective here?

[jplunke1]

POEs graphics were initially awful and the perspective was just terrible. However over time they have gradually improved the graphics and adjusted the perspective so that they are quite sharp, but they really do not like anything.

Last Epoch's graphics have improved each patch sometimes dramatically. I would say it is a tossup. I enjoy Last Epoch but the level generation kinda sucks. At least it tries to look like something,

Just my opinion but looking at something like Valheim and how incredibly varied the worlds that are procedurally generated I really feel ARPGs without an open world are missing the boat. Again my opinion but inspiration for a modern ARPG should come more from Sacred and Divine Divinity in terms of world building than the Diablos, POEs and Grim Dawns of the world.

Create a world for us to play in not a bunch of corridor maps with wheel spokes.

[batonchiik]

play Grimm Dawn and feel the difference, 0 lags and freez, individual graphick of items, skill tree and most of all it works better than PoE and LE both

[Myrrdinn]

Honestly id say about the same other then mini map as LE blows it away. PoE minimap even to this day is a steaming pile of ♥♥♥♥.