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Nero1024 2021 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:27
RTX + DLSS = Yes
Any chance this game gets RTX buff?
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Joey Sav 2021 年 2 月 1 日 下午 11:34 
I mean they are indie team just focusing on making the best game they can right now, the game needs many more other graphical enhancements in my opinion before they start focusing on a tech that is known to hog pefromance signifcantly even with dlss. We can't forget this game is going to regardless if people want to admit or not compete with diablo 4 and poe 2 which are both looking like excellent titles with good graphically fidelity and the biggest one more funding and bigger teams. I'd say let the team launch the game see how successful it is for them and then they can focus on more ambitious tech. Another thing to mention ARPGs aren't usually the type of games that have massive amounts of reflections and stuff going on (reflections is where you notice rtx the most), yes ray tracing does shadows and stuff , but most games with their shadows and AO turned to ultra are barely noticeable in this regard besides minimal changes. I will never be against a dev team adding more stuff to the game, but not if it could hurt the overall experience because of it which i would bet because of the team size, would likely be the cause.
最後修改者:Joey Sav; 2021 年 2 月 1 日 下午 11:36
omgilovesteak 2021 年 2 月 2 日 上午 1:11 
I think of Indiana Jones everytime i see the word "Indie"
Nero1024 2021 年 2 月 2 日 上午 3:55 
引用自 Joey Sav
I mean they are indie team just focusing on making the best game they can right now, the game needs many more other graphical enhancements in my opinion before they start focusing on a tech that is known to hog pefromance signifcantly even with dlss. We can't forget this game is going to regardless if people want to admit or not compete with diablo 4 and poe 2 which are both looking like excellent titles with good graphically fidelity and the biggest one more funding and bigger teams. I'd say let the team launch the game see how successful it is for them and then they can focus on more ambitious tech. Another thing to mention ARPGs aren't usually the type of games that have massive amounts of reflections and stuff going on (reflections is where you notice rtx the most), yes ray tracing does shadows and stuff , but most games with their shadows and AO turned to ultra are barely noticeable in this regard besides minimal changes. I will never be against a dev team adding more stuff to the game, but not if it could hurt the overall experience because of it which i would bet because of the team size, would likely be the cause.

There are so many stuff that can be added with RTX, not only shadows and reflections, but lightning, too, and they can be added individually.
As far as I know, nvidia made it very accessible to implement DLSS in any game, it may be a bit harder with RT
最後修改者:Nero1024; 2021 年 2 月 2 日 上午 3:56
[LWT]Karpiu 2021 年 2 月 2 日 上午 6:49 
引用自 Nero1024
引用自 LWTKarpiu

It's not about experiencing yourself, it's not any argument against RTX not being a gimmick still. It's not about opinion. It is a gimmick, yet. It's new, when you use it, the performance drops drastically, now imagine them wasting time on implementing RTX that a few percentage of players would ever use, and less than that would notice, instead of focusing on a lot more important things related to game development. 2D games have nothing to do with it. Your indeed met my expectations fully, like i said before : you won't even understand the point, and you just proved you didn't :) There will be no RTX in Last Epoch, because devs understand the unnecessity of this feature, especially in a game of this genre. Thank god, because it's not needed in an ARPG. End of topic.

I have no intention to further try explaining obvious things to you. Talk about being delusional, your whole post is contradictory on many levels.

If everyone would follow your logic, we would still live in stone age))) I don't care about your bla, bla, bla, and only care if DEVs would spot the topic and do the right decision.

And the right decision is not implementing RTX, because it's a gimmick that drastically decreases the performance, and also, like i said before, there's a small percentage of all players that would ever use it. I don't know if you have any idea about how entitled you sound, because all the logical arguments are bouncing off your head like a ball. You should try getting a wider perspective once, and you will see why there is no, and there will be no RT in a game like this. Even a game like Wolcen, in which the devs focused entirely on the visual aspect and have all the resources Last Epoch devs don't (millions) didn't implement RT, and probably won't, because it's simply a waste of time and a feature no one except a few individuals like you cares about in an ARPG game.

I think you didn't even read my previous posts, because if you did, you would know that i've mentioned RT being useful, just not in an isometric ARPG, yet you're trying to say that i think that RT is completely useless and unnecessary. Try reading posts of people you're quoting before replying to them, but if you do read them, you need to try and comprehend them first.

The cherry on the cake is you saying that you don't care about my "bla bla bla", yet you're still replying with the same "oblivious to any logic" approach, without actually giving any logical arguments as to why would it be better to implement RT in this game, and what's the work hours to the final effect and benefit ratio for the devs to do it. I think it's time for you to stop writing, and start thinking.
ak-Amko 2021 年 2 月 2 日 下午 4:14 
DLLS is ♥♥♥♥ if you own a 4k monitor you can see what ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ this system is,yes you get few FPS but AT THE COST OF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BLUR and unclean image, on lower resolution is i GUESS " O K" BUT instead of them actually improving engine and optimizing GAME they found a BAD BAD work around, well just put set your resolution to lower and you get the same ♥♥♥♥ anyway...and im talking for 4k, i ended 1080p back back a while and stop telling me that its a GOOD system. !!! its not!
Nero1024 2021 年 2 月 2 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 ak-Amko
DLLS is ♥♥♥♥ if you own a 4k monitor you can see what ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ this system is,yes you get few FPS but AT THE COST OF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BLUR and unclean image, on lower resolution is i GUESS " O K" BUT instead of them actually improving engine and optimizing GAME they found a BAD BAD work around, well just put set your resolution to lower and you get the same ♥♥♥♥ anyway...and im talking for 4k, i ended 1080p back back a while and stop telling me that its a GOOD system. !!! its not!

I got 4k monitor and DLSS looks good. Don't know what you are talking about. Show comparison images to back up your words?
ak-Amko 2021 年 2 月 3 日 上午 7:13 
引用自 Nero1024
引用自 ak-Amko
DLLS is ♥♥♥♥ if you own a 4k monitor you can see what ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ this system is,yes you get few FPS but AT THE COST OF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BLUR and unclean image, on lower resolution is i GUESS " O K" BUT instead of them actually improving engine and optimizing GAME they found a BAD BAD work around, well just put set your resolution to lower and you get the same ♥♥♥♥ anyway...and im talking for 4k, i ended 1080p back back a while and stop telling me that its a GOOD system. !!! its not!

I got 4k monitor and DLSS looks good. Don't know what you are talking about. Show comparison images to back up your words?
no need there are tonzzzzzs videos pictures on the internet just use GOOGLE... iguess but here is a 1440p video all others are above 19min soo i dont know, if you will watch even this one anyway... if you dont spot the difference....well i cant help you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12H5yyo1tnk
Nero1024 2021 年 2 月 3 日 上午 9:46 
引用自 ak-Amko
引用自 Nero1024

I got 4k monitor and DLSS looks good. Don't know what you are talking about. Show comparison images to back up your words?
no need there are tonzzzzzs videos pictures on the internet just use GOOGLE... iguess but here is a 1440p video all others are above 19min soo i dont know, if you will watch even this one anyway... if you dont spot the difference....well i cant help you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12H5yyo1tnk

They decided to remove sharpness from DLSS for some reason. You can still add it with nvidia control panel and it will look better or like native resolution, but with performance buff
最後修改者:Nero1024; 2021 年 2 月 3 日 上午 9:50
ak-Amko 2021 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:50 
引用自 Nero1024
引用自 ak-Amko
no need there are tonzzzzzs videos pictures on the internet just use GOOGLE... iguess but here is a 1440p video all others are above 19min soo i dont know, if you will watch even this one anyway... if you dont spot the difference....well i cant help you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12H5yyo1tnk

They decided to remove sharpness from DLSS for some reason. You can still add it with nvidia control panel and it will look better or like native resolution, but with performance buff
i know all that, but that dosnt change fact that DLSS is ♥♥♥♥ for 4k image quality, its like fighting that 60 FPS is better then 144 FPS :Halb::PhotonMan:
Nero1024 2021 年 2 月 3 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 ak-Amko
引用自 Nero1024

They decided to remove sharpness from DLSS for some reason. You can still add it with nvidia control panel and it will look better or like native resolution, but with performance buff
i know all that, but that dosnt change fact that DLSS is ♥♥♥♥ for 4k image quality, its like fighting that 60 FPS is better then 144 FPS :Halb::PhotonMan:

You are the one who is fighting, I just want a DLSS option in the game, because it works like it is supposed to and I like the results))
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