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Curious about item appearance
I saw people leveling up but the character was always looking the same as when they were level 1, so i got afraid of the possibility that this game is one of those that doesn't have different skins for the multiple armors and weapons you drop and buy.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wespe___o=/:*:
Correct :steammocking:
..time will show, if it gets better after Release.. better not expect too much

-> Though I´m quite sure that the STORE will have some Skins available at Release ..as always with games that have real-money Store :steamfacepalm:
It's ridiculous that some games released two decades ago had multiple items each with their own skins and now on 2021 we still have games that insist on not providing that.

The budget is probably the issue because if it's a design choice, it's a wasted potential for this game. I hope they sell and make enough money with this game and give all the items a different skin.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wespe___o=/:*:
Correct :steammocking:
..time will show, if it gets better after Release.. better not expect too much

-> Though I´m quite sure that the STORE will have some Skins available at Release ..as always with games that have real-money Store :steamfacepalm:
Oh, but u dont need to be "quite sure", now u can be 100% positive that is what IS happening, they already announced their "cosmetics".
Quite a bit ago, I asked them about why is taking so long to get gear and weapons look less horrible, then I pointed out that lack "of motivation" for doing so was because they were planing on release an ingame shop with cosmetics and was in their best interest to keep everything ugly, or something among those lines, and here it is!
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Valaryant:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wespe___o=/:*:
Correct :steammocking:
..time will show, if it gets better after Release.. better not expect too much

-> Though I´m quite sure that the STORE will have some Skins available at Release ..as always with games that have real-money Store :steamfacepalm:
Oh, but u dont need to be "quite sure", now u can be 100% positive that is what IS happening, they already announced their "cosmetics".
Quite a bit ago, I asked them about why is taking so long to get gear and weapons look less horrible, then I pointed out that lack "of motivation" for doing so was because they were planing on release an ingame shop with cosmetics and was in their best interest to keep everything ugly, or something among those lines, and here it is!
I don't even think it needs to look cool, shiny and badass. It's just about variety. About not seeing the same character wearing the same clothes/armor from level 1 to whatever is the level cap.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DISRuPTED:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Valaryant:
Oh, but u dont need to be "quite sure", now u can be 100% positive that is what IS happening, they already announced their "cosmetics".
Quite a bit ago, I asked them about why is taking so long to get gear and weapons look less horrible, then I pointed out that lack "of motivation" for doing so was because they were planing on release an ingame shop with cosmetics and was in their best interest to keep everything ugly, or something among those lines, and here it is!
I don't even think it needs to look cool, shiny and badass. It's just about variety. About not seeing the same character wearing the same clothes/armor from level 1 to whatever is the level cap.
In this case yes, I do need them to look cool and nice, as this is a pay to play game, and the loot and be default, the looks on said loot is one of the basic things in this kind of games, the fact that it was planed to look bad so u get enticed to buy cosmetics as is trending now days, is aggravating and I truly despise it.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Valaryant; 23 Ιουν 2021, 9:05
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DISRuPTED:
I don't even think it needs to look cool, shiny and badass. It's just about variety. About not seeing the same character wearing the same clothes/armor from level 1 to whatever is the level cap.
In this case yes, I do need them to look cool and nice, as this is a pay to play game, and the loot and be default, the looks on said loot is one of the basic things in this kind of games, the fact that it was planed to look bad so u get enticed to buy cosmetics is trending now days, and I truly despise it.

If it's a paid thing from the store of course it has to look great.

But each item you loot and equip looking exactly the same as the other one you had is a big turn off for me, it could be ugly by design but at least give us variety in appearance, variety of the ways we could be ugly, variety is the word! Having the character looking the exact same the whole game is a dumb thing to do with a game on this genre.
The cosmetic shop is not yet implemented and we don't yet know when it will arrive. Only the developers know for certain, and I haven't heard of any concrete plans for it's implementation.

Currently, not every item in the game has corresponding 3D art yet, but this is slowly changing as more and more are being added into the game each patch. If we look at the most recent patches we can see this.
  • Patch 0.8.0 brought the Rouge class with all new 2D & 3D art for the introduction of bows, quivers, and daggers as well as all the Rogue specific chest and helmet armours.
  • Patch 0.8.1 brought several new shields & relics into the game with accompanying 2D & 3D art.
  • Patch 0.8.2 updated all 1-handed sword and 2-handed sword/mace 2D & 3D art.
So yes, certain 2D & 3D art gets updated nearly every patch. Weapons are much easier to design 3D art for so they've been receiving more attention atm. Also, there have been some recent hires to work on these.

It is the dev's goal to make as much custom gear as possible before the game launches:

Making a unique piece of gear has a lot of steps, concept, implementation, 2D art, 3D art, VFX, sometimes animations. Our goal is to have as many of these things custom for each piece of unique gear. An early game belt that isn't going to be used all that often probably won't get special VFX for example but an epic end game helmet would. We are working to improve the number of uniques that have custom art assets.
Source: Discord Link[discord.com]

Considering the resources it takes to develop each item, the developers need to prioritize what content they develop at each stage of this early access period:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Discord_User:
Why in the game of 2020 all things of the same type look like one - where is the customization?
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Developer:
Welcome to the community Discord_User. We are still in early access so the game isn't finished yet. We are also an indie team that has to prioritise where we develop new content. We are working hard to increase the customisations options and we've come a long way this last year with visuals of the game in general.
Source: Discord Link[discord.com]

Also, EHG hosts a weekly developer Q&A stream on Twitch. Here's what they've said recently regarding future 3D art for gear:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από March 19th Dev Stream:
Q: Will you guys work more on visual equipment customization according to the equipped item?

A: Yes, many more 3D art for gear is coming.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από March 26th Dev Stream:
Q: Have you guys been working on how gear appears on your character at all or will that come later?

A: Yes, almost all the [gear] models you see now have been introduced in the last three patches or so. Yes, more gear appearance is coming soon. We’ll be adding more and more as time goes on – that’s something we’re definitely working on.

Here are some examples of the current gear options available in-game for 3 of the 5 classes:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469290769
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469319741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469309893
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από andrew.thiele; 23 Ιουν 2021, 13:19
I also sincerely hope that there will be more unique looks for basic equipment in the future. Currently, all variations are essentially just different color schemes.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Squidcake:
I also sincerely hope that there will be more unique looks for basic equipment in the future. Currently, all variations are essentially just different color schemes.

Its safe to assume there will be but how distinct they will be remains to be seen. I personally believe the best looking gear will be saved for MTX gear, but I could be wrong.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από andrew.thiele:
The cosmetic shop is not yet implemented and we don't yet know when it will arrive. Only the developers know for certain, and I haven't heard of any concrete plans for it's implementation.

Currently, not every item in the game has corresponding 3D art yet, but this is slowly changing as more and more are being added into the game each patch. If we look at the most recent patches we can see this.
  • Patch 0.8.0 brought the Rouge class with all new 2D & 3D art for the introduction of bows, quivers, and daggers as well as all the Rogue specific chest and helmet armours.
  • Patch 0.8.1 brought several new shields & relics into the game with accompanying 2D & 3D art.
  • Patch 0.8.2 updated all 1-handed sword and 2-handed sword/mace 2D & 3D art.
So yes, certain 2D & 3D art gets updated nearly every patch. Weapons are much easier to design 3D art for so they've been receiving more attention atm. Also, there have been some recent hires to work on these.

It is the dev's goal to make as much custom gear as possible before the game launches:

Making a unique piece of gear has a lot of steps, concept, implementation, 2D art, 3D art, VFX, sometimes animations. Our goal is to have as many of these things custom for each piece of unique gear. An early game belt that isn't going to be used all that often probably won't get special VFX for example but an epic end game helmet would. We are working to improve the number of uniques that have custom art assets.
Source: Discord Link[discord.com]

Considering the resources it takes to develop each item, the developers need to prioritize what content they develop at each stage of this early access period:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Discord_User:
Why in the game of 2020 all things of the same type look like one - where is the customization?
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Developer:
Welcome to the community Discord_User. We are still in early access so the game isn't finished yet. We are also an indie team that has to prioritise where we develop new content. We are working hard to increase the customisations options and we've come a long way this last year with visuals of the game in general.
Source: Discord Link[discord.com]

Also, EHG hosts a weekly developer Q&A stream on Twitch. Here's what they've said recently regarding future 3D art for gear:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από March 19th Dev Stream:
Q: Will you guys work more on visual equipment customization according to the equipped item?

A: Yes, many more 3D art for gear is coming.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από March 26th Dev Stream:
Q: Have you guys been working on how gear appears on your character at all or will that come later?

A: Yes, almost all the [gear] models you see now have been introduced in the last three patches or so. Yes, more gear appearance is coming soon. We’ll be adding more and more as time goes on – that’s something we’re definitely working on.

Here are some examples of the current gear options available in-game for 3 of the 5 classes:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469290769
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469319741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469309893

Thx a lot for the detailed answer.
Really looking forward to this game if Lost Ark doesn't give up on blocking my country ip addresses
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από DISRuPTED; 24 Ιουν 2021, 7:33
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DISRuPTED:
Thx a lot for the detailed answer.
Really looking forward to this game if Lost Ark doesn't give up on blocking my country ip addresses

That sucks I heard its down to Smilegate not allowing Amazon to publish in certain regions. Though the European ones that are blocked are down to loot box laws and Amazon have said they are seeking a solution to that.
I'm sorry, real money store? That's a hard pass for me then.
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