Weapons were not balanced very well. Anyone else feel same?

[Uzkniso o.o]

I feel that the Variant Scythe is OP, when used with Inferno Rush. Add Lingering Fang burst effect to kill stuff even faster.

Why is it even good, you may ask. Because:
- you can attack anything from a fairly safe distance, including flying enemies AND hit weakspots in the process
- it hits so many times, that staggering the annoying Ra enemies is made fairly easy
- again, hits so many times that killing enemies with frontal weakspots (Vajra, Borg Camlann, Marduk etc) is like a joke. Their bonds break and then you stagger them to death.
- hits really high, I break Ras hands without much trouble. Why would I bother with aerial attacks for that?

It does have a downside - you run out of stamina and need to manage that well. Stamina level 10 and Athlete helps a lot.

So anyway, so far, I have tried a few other weapons (I am planning to try em all eventually) including Moonblade, Shortsword and Longsword. Nothing, other than the Shortsword comes even close. And the only reason why the Shortsword was good, was because of crits(?) with Rampaging Comet. But you need luck and skill to hit hard with it, unlike with a Scythe.

Either way, what do you guys think about weapon balancing?

tl;dr: Variant Scythe is the best weapon, when used with Inferno Rush, prove me wrong.

[Download Everything]

I'm a Longblade user and a side Shortsword user, so my opinion goes only for Longblade POV.
Longblade's damage is great, and can switch between slash and Impulse Edge's crush. Although it's only viable with a few of the BA. Especially the ground BA, man they are so underwhelming, and for me, only 2 of em is worth it.

The counter one and the crush Impulse Edge. Counter paired with Survival Instinct is the only way to go, or heck you'll get oneshotted in higher rank, but can damage up to 15k or more. The IE paired with the oracle slash step BA, makes it rather spammable. But the damage only shines on downed monster (Still could clear Odin in only 1 minute with that). That being said, I think Longblade has the potential to out-damage Scythe, but it needs a heck lot of setup. I've seen so many people dislike Longblade, though it's a matter of preferences.


I don't say your opinion is wrong, but I won't say it's...best? There could be so many people with other builds that can hit like a truck even with spear. Scythe has a much better versatility and reach, and doesn't need that much setup. Can't really say for other weapons, but perhaps it depends again on the playstyle of players.

Biting Edge, on the other hand...feels really weak. Needs too much setup, needs too much stamina management, a kinda low damage output but fast movements. That is the only weapon I believe needed to be buffed much much more. But I don't see any weapon optimization from Bamco anytime soon since the last update has been released.

[Uzkniso o.o]

Originally posted by Download Everything:

Biting Edge, on the other hand...feels really weak. Needs too much setup, needs too much stamina management, a kinda low damage output but fast movements. That is the only weapon I believe needed to be buffed much much more. But I don't see any weapon optimization from Bamco anytime soon since the last update has been released.

Yea, I enjoy using Longblade, too. I like it's simple yet effective ground attack combos.
And yes - no more updates for this game is a very likely scenario.

Imho, simple damage buffs to some burst arts would be enough, as everything else seems fine.

[Zarc]

I used to use Scythe since GE2RB. But when i tried it on GE3 it feels not so effective anymore. Battles are getting more dynamic, and you need to stay in place to perform some of the attacks like Extend Bite, even further the Cleave Fang. I end up hitting less because the Aragamis are moving around a lot.

Whether it is balanced or not i think it depends on the player. People have their own style and their own preferences.

[Dals | Thalita's Wife]

Weapons here are actually all pretty well balanced with a few outlying factors. What you're talking about is a matter of playstyle and personal experience rather than technical potential.

[Uzkniso o.o]

As of yesterday, I have tried every single weapon. The one I did not like the most was a spear. It's too defense oriented, for me. Nearly every attack has you making distance between yourself and the enemy. That and the damage did not seem all that good. I liked hammer the most, seems you can deal more damage and more quickly, than with a scythe, but it's situational.

[Dals | Thalita's Wife]

Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:

As of yesterday, I have tried every single weapon. The one I did not like the most was a spear. It's too defense oriented, for me. Nearly every attack has you making distance between yourself and the enemy. That and the damage did not seem all that good. I liked hammer the most, seems you can deal more damage and more quickly, than with a scythe, but it's situational.

I can get that, I actually like the spear and short blade the most. Different playstyles, it seems!

[Uzkniso o.o]

Originally posted by Fraeduu:

I can get that, I actually like the spear and short blade the most. Different playstyles, it seems!

Short blade is nice, seeing those 6,000+ hits never gets old.

[Dals | Thalita's Wife]

Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:

Originally posted by Fraeduu:

I can get that, I actually like the spear and short blade the most. Different playstyles, it seems!

Short blade is nice, seeing those 6,000+ hits never gets old.

For sure. But it's not really a matter of balance between weapons, just about how you play and whether they suit you.

[Seraphita]

Tbh, Biting Edge can destroy something in no time from what I tested. Only for people who know how to use it or it WILL feel weak. This is pretty much an expert user weapon. I can massively destroy anything with it. I think my only complaint might be the fact it can't break crush pure weak part easily but otherwise it breaks things and then you combo the heck out of weak spot for win.

[Dals | Thalita's Wife]

Originally posted by Seraphina:

Tbh, Biting Edge can destroy something in no time from what I tested. Only for people who know how to use it or it WILL feel weak. This is pretty much an expert user weapon. I can massively destroy anything with it. I think my only complaint might be the fact it can't break crush pure weak part easily but otherwise it breaks things and then you combo the heck out of weak spot for win.

I think buster blade / claymore is similar in some ways. You've really gotta learn how to parry and how to capitalize on that block ability in order to make it reach its true effectiveness. That requires learning timing of all the aragami moves as well.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Fraeduu:

I think buster blade / claymore is similar in some ways. You've really gotta learn how to parry and how to capitalize on that block ability in order to make it reach its true effectiveness. That requires learning timing of all the aragami moves as well.

Yup. This game is wonderful in the nature of "you learn a playstyle and figure what your own is". This is after all the nature of being a god eater. Like sure, it's a game but every god eaters have to figure their style anyway. I seem to be best with hammer and dual myself. It's my things. In term of balance, yes some weapon will feel stronger but I feel like everything is about even in power.

[RexEviL]

Originally posted by Uzkniso o.o:

Either way, what do you guys think about weapon balancing?

tl;dr: Variant Scythe is the best weapon, when used with Inferno Rush, prove me wrong.

Some weapons are easier to use and deal a lot of damage, as long as you know how to use weapon, there isn't much difference.
MB is easiest to learn and use. You can stagger enemy forever.

For example: SS skill has before cast time and has extremely small hit box. Other weapons cast right away and have large hit box. Some weapons are literally crap against certain enemy types.

[Kouki]

The weapon balancing issues has been a thing all the way back to God Eater Burst. Game balance were never strong point of this series.

But it doesn't really matter if a lot of the weapon types in the game actually fun to use.
Yes, using Variant Scythe is indeed really fun.

[Rimentez]

I think blade weapons are fine and each can get the job done in its own ways and different play style. Used to main scythe and spear in GE2RB but now I am using biting edge. Having a blast with it so far. After completing 200 missions with one weapon, I will give heavy moon a try next.

Guns on the other hand is the different matter. Used to be brokenly OP in GE2RB with custom bullets. I used to use guns and blade weapons equally in previous games but now not anymore. I am currently in rank 5 and I found guns pretty weak,I am only using it for healing atm. When I tried to customize bullets, the OP cost gets pretty expensive so I am on the fence with it.

[Uzkniso o.o]

Originally posted by Altair Arcturus:

Guns on the other hand is the different matter. Used to be brokenly OP in GE2RB with custom bullets. I used to use guns and blade weapons equally in previous games but now not anymore. I am currently in rank 5 and I found guns pretty weak,I am only using it for healing atm. When I tried to customize bullets, the OP cost gets pretty expensive so I am on the fence with it.

Then I recommend you to try the shotgun. It's special ability is great. You can move around faster with it, without consuming any stamina.