Why AGEs are treated like garbage?

[Teal V2]

I must miss something or I do not know, but... I am unable to understand why AGEs are treated like that. Kept in prison and saying

"It's fine if you die, we can replace you anytime."

AGEs are the new super soldiers against the threat of mankind. Everyone can see that how powerful they are as the Player's little group kills every single aragami they encounter, even the fearsome adaptive ones and the AGE eater.

And still, they are treated as mehs.

So...
This is my first GE game, ever. Am I missing something from the earlier ones?
Just because if I read it right, the top guys aka God Eaters were treated total fine.

Or it is an anime plot without any reasonable thoughts?

[Rhael]

Originally posted by Tregarde:

I kinda liked the anime. Sure, it took some liberties with the lore, but it wasn't that far off. And the anime did a lot better job telling a story, and actually showed us things - like how harsh life is in an aragami infested world - that were only mentioned in passing in the games.

What do you mean mentioned in passing? They have multiple mentions about the outher gueto and how aragami frequently invade there, there is also the invasion of Fenrir and the whole part about Kota's family.

In God Eater 2 there is an extended plot about the Satellite Cities, which are the ones that they put in the anime as if it was Lindow who have built them first (it wasn't they didn't even exist at the time).

And it was very far off:

For starters Erick dies heroically by saving somebody.

Then the Man Character which was the super smart most capable better fighter have it´s place taken by that dumb guy who can't even operate a godarc even after he should have technically have been already trained in combat and stuff.

They show godarcs Burst as if it's something you do by injecting Oracle into the core instead of devouring the aragami, worse yet, they make it as if it´s the biggest accidental discovery when god arcs burst mode have been known for years, so much that the burst levels are locked at 3 simply for safety of the god eater so it won't be attacked by a crazed godarc.

The whole thing spits on the grave of the game lore. So much it gets me annoyed just remembering about it.

[Rhael]

I didn't even mention the part where Alissa is so retarded that she goes to touch the other godarc when they all know that if they do so they will get devoured by the godarc oracle cells since they are not compatible with the bias that prevent it.

The only reason it didn't happen in the original with the main character was because lindow's own godarc had a conscience and prevented it, but it took a lot of stress while doing so and had to be repaired many times until you finally saved lindow.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by suksas:

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

I think the year is around 2090~ AGES are created around 7-9 year old compare to God Eater of 13-18 year old. Soma is the very first God Eater a Super prototype (Watch the God Eater anime although it cover only the Dyaus Pita arc of the game it does have some flashback story of Key Events). There some detail I miss I might add them later as I remember them.

Soma isn't the first god eater. He was the first human aragami hybrid.

God eaters are not really humans either, they can and have turned into aragami due to the protection of the bias factor running out or being removed from the equation. Livie from GE2's job was dealing with these.

Lindow is an example of one who went through this process. They merely reverted to being "human" due to their old god arc sacrificed it's independence to hold back the aragami part he became. They act as their god arc(and arm) still, and are covered with some pieces of brass or gold.

Compared to god eaters, ages are even less human. They use a modified version of the original bias factor that created soma, and are injected with the ash as well in order to create a god eater of higher innate ash resistance and base level strength. The result of this process is a much more volatile existence, as well as one that is feared but put to use anyways because that is the situation humanity is in. The same reason why both phym and shio were accepted, their power and usefulness was to great to allow to stagnate.

[Darkfiro]

Ok so if Soma isn't the first god Eater how the hell were the god eater created Soma is a key factor on the Creation of the God Eater sure Soma isn't the first God Eater to wield a God Arc but without Soma there would be No God Eaters.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

Ok so if Soma isn't the first god Eater how the hell were the god eater created Soma is a key factor on the Creation of the God Eater sure Soma isn't the first God Eater to wield a God Arc but without Soma there would be No God Eaters.

He is part aragami by nature. The bias factor that created him doesn't need resupplying but in order to become a normal god eater he needs the bias factor for it. It is pracically semantics to say he is not the original god eater, he is for all practical purposes a proto god eater turned into a gen 1.(Skipping the gen pistol god eater "generation")

[suksas]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by suksas:

Soma isn't the first god eater. He was the first human aragami hybrid.

God eaters are not really humans either, they can and have turned into aragami due to the protection of the bias factor running out or being removed from the equation. Livie from GE2's job was dealing with these.

Lindow is an example of one who went through this process. They merely reverted to being "human" due to their old god arc sacrificed it's independence to hold back the aragami part he became. They act as their god arc(and arm) still, and are covered with some pieces of brass or gold.

Compared to god eaters, ages are even less human. They use a modified version of the original bias factor that created soma, and are injected with the ash as well in order to create a god eater of higher innate ash resistance and base level strength. The result of this process is a much more volatile existence, as well as one that is feared but put to use anyways because that is the situation humanity is in. The same reason why both phym and shio were accepted, their power and usefulness was to great to allow to stagnate.

I'm not sure why you are posting this to me as it has nothing to do with what I wrote beyond proving my point about soma being the first human aragami hybrid.
Phym and Shio were never human aragami hybrids, they were Aragami who evolved to resemble humans.

[Darkfiro]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

Ok so if Soma isn't the first god Eater how the hell were the god eater created Soma is a key factor on the Creation of the God Eater sure Soma isn't the first God Eater to wield a God Arc but without Soma there would be No God Eaters.

He is part aragami by nature. The bias factor that created him doesn't need resupplying but in order to become a normal god eater he needs the bias factor for it. It is pracically semantics to say he is not the original god eater, he is for all practical purposes a proto god eater turned into a gen 1.(Skipping the gen pistol god eater "generation")

You admit by definition he is the First God Eater (by calling him a Proto God eater). And beside isn't the pistol gen arc really ineffective and can be wield by anyone sure it could hurt a Ogretail but that like shooting BB at a bear. I don't think that qualify the user of said weapon a God eater.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

Originally posted by Deadoon:

He is part aragami by nature. The bias factor that created him doesn't need resupplying but in order to become a normal god eater he needs the bias factor for it. It is pracically semantics to say he is not the original god eater, he is for all practical purposes a proto god eater turned into a gen 1.(Skipping the gen pistol god eater "generation")

You admit by definition he is the First God Eater (by calling him a Proto God eater). And beside isn't the pistol gen arc really ineffective and can be wield by anyone sure it could hurt a Ogretail but that like shooting BB at a bear. I don't think that qualify the user of said weapon a God eater.

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

[Darkfiro]

Originally posted by suksas:

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

You admit by definition he is the First God Eater (by calling him a Proto God eater). And beside isn't the pistol gen arc really ineffective and can be wield by anyone sure it could hurt a Ogretail but that like shooting BB at a bear. I don't think that qualify the user of said weapon a God eater.

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

So your saying a prototype of a car isn't car because no one drove it even though it the first of said type of car. Your logic is flawed in this case and you don't read my previous statements.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

Originally posted by suksas:

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

So your saying a prototype of a car isn't car because no one drove it even though it the first of said type of car. Your logic is flawed in this case and you don't read my previous statements.

Except Soma isn't prototype for god eaters. He was used to harvest bias factor used in creation of God Eaters.

Car has many parts. Soma is like let's say a wheel.
On it's own, not much of use. But when combined with other parts like aragami cores, than he become a car.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by suksas:

I'm not sure why you are posting this to me as it has nothing to do with what I wrote beyond proving my point about soma being the first human aragami hybrid.
Phym and Shio were never human aragami hybrids, they were Aragami who evolved to resemble humans.

It is the first line.

God eaters are not really humans either,

Originally posted by suksas:

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

God eaters are those that have compatibility with the specific bias factor. They then search through the god arcs that have been made to find one that is compatible. Several individuals have been compatible, to at least a certain extent, with multiple god arcs. But that is an extreme rarity.

Ages are much more flexible than normal god eaters, thus the dual god arcs.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by suksas:

I'm not sure why you are posting this to me as it has nothing to do with what I wrote beyond proving my point about soma being the first human aragami hybrid.
Phym and Shio were never human aragami hybrids, they were Aragami who evolved to resemble humans.

It is the first line.

God eaters are not really humans either,

Originally posted by suksas:

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

God eaters are those that have compatibility with the specific bias factor. They then search through the god arcs that have been made to find one that is compatible. Several individuals have been compatible, to at least a certain extent, with multiple god arcs. But that is an extreme rarity.

No, those are God Eater candidates. They don't become god eaters until after infusal of bias factor and getting connected to god arc.
There is a huge difference between being a candidate and being a god eater.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by suksas:

I'm not sure why you are posting this to me as it has nothing to do with what I wrote beyond proving my point about soma being the first human aragami hybrid.
Phym and Shio were never human aragami hybrids, they were Aragami who evolved to resemble humans.

It is the first line.

God eaters are not really humans either,

Originally posted by suksas:

Soma didn't become a god eater until he gained a god arc. Wielding a God Arc is what makes one a God Eater. And his first God Arc was buster blade after all.

God eaters are those that have compatibility with the specific bias factor. They then search through the god arcs that have been made to find one that is compatible. Several individuals have been compatible, to at least a certain extent, with multiple god arcs. But that is an extreme rarity.

Ages are much more flexible than normal god eaters, thus the dual god arcs.

AGE are not much more flexible. They are infused with p73c and ash corruptions. It's literally happens in the first minutes of the game and shows you how you are infused with two substances, one into each arm.

[Darkfiro]

Originally posted by suksas:

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

So your saying a prototype of a car isn't car because no one drove it even though it the first of said type of car. Your logic is flawed in this case and you don't read my previous statements.

Except Soma isn't prototype for god eaters. He was used to harvest bias factor used in creation of God Eaters.

Car has many parts. Soma is like let's say a wheel.
On it's own, not much of use. But when combined with other parts like aragami cores, than he become a car.

Now your going back on your reasoning is Soma a Proto god eater or not? Make up your mind. You said that Soma is a Proto (prototype) God eater in a previous statement and now your saying he isn't. Alright so if we remove the Project that help Create Soma in the way he is now.The main issue isn't the God Arc. The issue was to find someone able to wield said God arc without the weapon eating the person.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Demifiend Darkfiro:

Originally posted by suksas:

Except Soma isn't prototype for god eaters. He was used to harvest bias factor used in creation of God Eaters.

Car has many parts. Soma is like let's say a wheel.
On it's own, not much of use. But when combined with other parts like aragami cores, than he become a car.

Now your going back on your reasoning is Soma a Proto god eater or not? Make up your mind. You said that Soma is a Proto (prototype) God eater in a previous statement and now your saying he isn't. Alright so if we remove the Project that help Create Soma in the way he is now.The main issue isn't the God Arc. The issue was to find someone able to wield said God arc without the weapon eating the person.

I think you are projecting someone on me. I never said that he was a Proto God Eater.
The Project turned Soma into Human Aragami hybrid, or rather it made him born as one. After which his naturally produced bias factor was combined with aragami cores and other parts to create a god arc.
Which was than used by first God Eater to kill Ogre Tail if I remember correctly.