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nobalkain (Banned) Dec 4, 2021 @ 6:40am
Wait Cybuster isnt an OG?
I just found that in 1999 there was an Anime called Masou Kishin Cybuster. Its the same Mecha and in the description it states its a Mecha from another world. I always thought it was an OG Mecha since its part of the OG serries. What connection if any does the serries have?
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Zantagor Dec 4, 2021 @ 6:45am 
The anime came out after Cybuster was in SRW, It's the 1st OG in SRW actually, along with the Valsione. 1st appearance was 2nd Super Robot Wars on Famicom in 1991
nobalkain (Banned) Dec 4, 2021 @ 6:49am 
Is it not considered cannon, the pilot doesnt look to be the same?
I think it is a spin-off anime from SRW that has nothing to do with any of SRW's games.

btw Masaki had his own OG game named SRW : The Lord Of Elemental but it comes later after his first debut in SRW2 and The Lord Of Elemental is very different from 1999 anime.
Last edited by Bigboss PC Faster; Dec 4, 2021 @ 7:01am
KaitoKid Dec 4, 2021 @ 7:21am 
It is an OG, anime came years after it's first appearance in SRW.
Ogami Dec 4, 2021 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by nobalkain:
Is it not considered cannon, the pilot doesnt look to be the same?

Its technically canon. In the story the Cybaster gets transported to Earth but without Masaki and has to choose another pilot for a while. Basically for some rights issues they could not use Masaki as the pilot in the story but he gets mentioned shortly.
At the end of the anime the Cybaster returns to La Gias.
But overall the anime has very little connection to the SRW games.
Last edited by Ogami; Dec 4, 2021 @ 7:58am
RiO Dec 4, 2021 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by Ogami:
Originally posted by nobalkain:
Is it not considered cannon, the pilot doesnt look to be the same?

Its technically canon.
It's not. The Cybuster anime came about because of intellectual property rights shenanigans where another company got hold of non-exclusive rights to likeness and names for the headlining mechs involved in the Masoukishin IP, some rights to pilot names but not likeness, etc.

It's basically bootleg-Masoukishin. Like those bad toys with one or two letters consciously misspelled to avoid trade mark claims that you could (and in some places still can) get for a dime from the rummage bin in stores.
Last edited by RiO; Dec 4, 2021 @ 3:21pm
Protoman Dec 4, 2021 @ 1:43pm 
To be rather pedantic, the first OG that appeared in SRW was technically Mecha Gilgilgan back in SRW 1. It was created specifically for that game. Even if it's based on a Dynamic Pro property (Mazinger/Grendizer), remember that the original Mazinkaiser (SRW F/FF/X) was also classified as an OG. They just won't appear in the SRW OG series.

Now, about Cybuster. There are actually three Cybusters.
The original is from SRW 2, which is from 1991.
The Cybuster anime is from 1999.
There's also the Cybuster from Shin Masou Kishin Panzer Warfare, a game for the PSX, also from 1999.

The anime doesn't even try to follow the Cybuster mythos, it's just a completely different story with the same robots and a few characters that have the same names... or an amalgamation thereof. So you have Shuu Zoldark (Shuu Shirakawa + Bian Zoldark), Lyune Frank (Ryunne + ???). Some characters kept the same name, but they have completely different designs. There's a Masaki Andoh that actually pilots Cybuster (he's not the main character), but he doesn't look even remotely like the one from SRW 2. Saphine also has the same name, but she's a different character.

The game, Shin Masou Kishin, uses a very loose interpretation of the events from Masou Kishin, although all the pilots are different. There's no Masaki, the main pilot of Cybuster is Keigo. Although you start with quite a few characters, for most of the game you only have the 4 Elemental Lords (Cybuster, Zamjeed, Granveil, Goddess). It was developed by Banpresto.

Now about if the thing is canon or not. Most likely not. However, it's rather weird that there's a promo for the anime in Shin Masou Kishin - the opening of the anime plays even before the opening of the game! It's weird because the game was developed by Banpresto, and the anime seems to have no links to them. I wonder if they wanted to expand into another series entirely and failed?
REhorror Dec 4, 2021 @ 6:27pm 
The anime Cybuster is connected (Masaki is in there after all), but it will probably not be used again.
The OP song is GOAT rho.
KiraTB Dec 4, 2021 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by Protoman:
There's a Masaki Andoh that actually pilots Cybuster (he's not the main character), but he doesn't look even remotely like the one from SRW 2.

That Masaki in the anime is not the same Masaki, he is just the heroine's brother Jyunichi who was given the name Masaki because he lost his memory, according to the episode only included in the DVD release.
Last edited by KiraTB; Dec 4, 2021 @ 9:13pm
REhorror Dec 5, 2021 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by KiraTB:
Originally posted by Protoman:
There's a Masaki Andoh that actually pilots Cybuster (he's not the main character), but he doesn't look even remotely like the one from SRW 2.

That Masaki in the anime is not the same Masaki, he is just the heroine's brother Jyunichi who was given the name Masaki because he lost his memory, according to the episode only included in the DVD release.
Damn, I didn't know that, so that cuts away the connection with the mainstream OGverse then.
Fowl Sorcerous Dec 6, 2021 @ 1:16pm 
Marth debuted in Smash Bros.

more or less.
exia66 Dec 7, 2021 @ 3:18pm 
Originally posted by Protoman:
The game, Shin Masou Kishin, uses a very loose interpretation of the events from Masou Kishin, although all the pilots are different. There's no Masaki, the main pilot of Cybuster is Keigo. Although you start with quite a few characters, for most of the game you only have the 4 Elemental Lords (Cybuster, Zamjeed, Granveil, Goddess). It was developed by Banpresto.

It's actually more of a pseudo sequel actually. The arm of the original Cybuster is a pretty big plot point if I remember PW right. It's why Cybuster between the two isn't a 1/1 copy.
Kaldin Dec 9, 2021 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Fowl Sorcerous:
Marth debuted in Smash Bros.

more or less.
I guess having been in at least 2 games over 10 years prior to Smash Bros. Melee makes it a debut now, huh? Or is that sarcasm I failed to get?
Terry86 Dec 9, 2021 @ 9:51am 
it's totally different thing, back in 1999 they couldn't use lord of elemental so they came up with lots random ass ♥♥♥♥ to make money. LOL

But ya that's also why they started pushing OG series cause they couldn't touch Lord of elemental due to copy right issue with winkysoft back in the days. *till 2012



OG lord of elemental on SFC is still my favorite SRW *including spinoff. The story is just full of charm & depth.

an Isekai that's 20 years ahead of the curve
Last edited by Terry86; Dec 9, 2021 @ 9:54am
REhorror Dec 9, 2021 @ 10:50pm 
The "isekai" thing wasn't really new, I meant, Dunbine was basically that, and it was a 70s show.
Cybuster itself is a huge Dunbine reference.
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