Why does Borderlands gets so much praise ?

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I'm not trying to start a ♥♥♥♥♥torm or anything like it I'm just trying to understand. I personally put 17 hours into it, because with all this praise around it and some of my friends playing I really felt like I missed something, but didn't enjoy any of it. All I got from it is a next-level ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI and enemies that are annoying as hell and RNG (oh my god how I hate RNG) weapons that are supposed to have more than 90% accuracy and can't hit my target unless I run directly in it's face and get destroyed by the other enemies that can somehow hit me with a weapon with a way, way lower accuracy than mine when they are meters away from me. I cannot judge the story since I think I'm like 1/2 of 1/4 into it (all I can say is that I like claptrap) and cannot really get into it since the gameplay is both boring and frustrating for me.

So tell me, what is so good about borderlands or simply what do you enjoy about this game ?

[Sneaky]

People love BL1 due to the good loot dropping more often than the sequel. People love BL2 cause there is a MUCH bigger story. I personally am getting tired of BL1 but that could just be cause I have put in over 200 hours in the last few months. After playing BL2 ... for me anyway ... BL1 feels ... not so good. Anyway, I would say give 2 or maybe the pre-sequel a shot. They might be more to your liking.

[The Laundromancer]

Borderlands gets most its story from the ludonarrative. It's about exploring and simply being on Pandora. A lot of the story is there to move you forward, but like many of the residents of the planet, there isn't much to do but survive. Each character has a purpose for being there, but it only gives you the bare essentials for understanding why.

When you drive across the wastelands or are navigating the trash heaps, that's what the game is really about. It combines RPG elements with FPS, and of course you get things you wouldn't expect. The RNG on guns can be a pain but it isn't meant to give you a perfect gun. You use it then lose it when another one comes along, and repeat. You have to stay active in monitoring which guns you use. It sucks when you get rid of your favorite gun, but you usually do for an even better one.

I loved Borderlands because of the aesthetic and design, and the RPG elements of it. I love games with deep, heavy story and design, and Borderlands has it - if you immerse yourself in the game. I guess it's hard for most.

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Originally posted by pillbinge:

Borderlands gets most its story from the ludonarrative. It's about exploring and simply being on Pandora. A lot of the story is there to move you forward, but like many of the residents of the planet, there isn't much to do but survive. Each character has a purpose for being there, but it only gives you the bare essentials for understanding why.

When you drive across the wastelands or are navigating the trash heaps, that's what the game is really about. It combines RPG elements with FPS, and of course you get things you wouldn't expect. The RNG on guns can be a pain but it isn't meant to give you a perfect gun. You use it then lose it when another one comes along, and repeat. You have to stay active in monitoring which guns you use. It sucks when you get rid of your favorite gun, but you usually do for an even better one.

I loved Borderlands because of the aesthetic and design, and the RPG elements of it. I love games with deep, heavy story and design, and Borderlands has it - if you immerse yourself in the game. I guess it's hard for most.

I see, well I guess it's just me then. I can totally get into a story just by the gameplay like I did with a close example would be Path of Exile or games like Bastion, Dust : An Elysian Tail or my favorite game, Xenoblade Chronicles that could get you even deeper into the game with the beautiful environments, the end-game areas that let you discover even more about a map that you went through 60 levels ago and even through side-quests that actually didn't feel like your usual side-quests but even more story about the universe of the game.
I just can't immerse myself into Borderlands story and universe (at least at the start but I don't want to force myself any further) when I'm just shooting, or at least trying to shoot at enemies that are braindead and annoying with my awful weapons that gave me the RNG that can't hit anything because of the goofy accuracy. I don't care if my weapons aren't OP or powerful, I just want them to actually hit my targets when they're supposed to (espescially if the weapon is supposed to have more than 90% accuracy, I expect a lot of precision from it). I expect my sniper rifle to be able to hit a target at long-range and my SMG to hit most of the bullets in the clips at mid-range but since the weapons are based on RNG, I guess it's not the case. I just can't enjoy or take interest in the story when the gameplay left me such a bad taste I guess.

[The Laundromancer]

I think Borderlands does a good job of sizing its map and spreading enemies out. You could spend a few minutes driving alone through some areas (occasionally getting shot at), and you can be within caverns. But it balances time spent fighting and time simply traveling and taking everything in. I dunno. It boils down to liking it or not. Some people like tea, some like coffee, some like neither.

You are right about the sniper rifles. I played Mordecai my first time through and did well, but once I played Brick like I am now and dropped sniping, I basically just annihilate anything that moves.

This game exists at medium range - a good range to use even sniper rifles. It just feels odd to do so.

[ActaNonVerba]

For me BL is one of those games you hate or love. I personally love it. Its gameplay, style, graphics and dark twisted humor are just some of the things I love about it. BL is an old game and a lot of the things you dislike we're fixed in BL2 and the Pre Sequel.

Overall I like BL2 better but I always come back to liking the first BL for its simplicity and bare basics. The story isn't the best but I enjoyed it all the same because of all the other elements. Every play through is a surprise because with this game you never know what you're going to get. I've maxed out 8+ characters on my 360 version and still enjoy it.

lastly this game did not receive much funding nor did they expect it to be nearly as successful as it was and I like that. 2K made a game they thought would be fun to them regardless of how popular it was going to be.

[The Laundromancer]

To add: I like Borderlands because it's really, really, really simple, but it's developed and thorough enough to have depth. Being simple isn't the opposite of depth, it's the opposite of complex - and being complex isn't synonymous with being good.

I know. Just, read it a few times. I had to pause when typing it.

The talents, guns, vehicle(s), - just everything is really streamlined and easy to understand if you just take a second to really look at it. Then from that point, you can press forward using higher thought to make the best weapon combinations and tactics. It doesn't hold you back with advanced stuff, but if you want to get advanced, you totally can.

It's an advanced game that everyone could play, and it had a great style with equally great humor.

[Rainbow Dash]

yea, felt the same way. everything is boring. i described like the same thing in a post about weapons or something.. this game is so overhyped

[Rainbow Dash]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/8980/discussions/0/613938693110327730/

yes borderlands is very boring. and the accuracy system make using weapons completely dull. you litteraly can fire 200 snipe bullets on an enemy in front of you and never hit him

i only play it while listening to stuffs like radio, otherwise it's just no way

i'm a very good aimer and aiming in this game is pretty easy despite the stupid swinging view. when i scope with a snipe (playing almost only siren), put the dot on the head of my target and shoot, i'm sure it will not hit. i always have to try above, below, a bit off left or off right.. and sometimes it just won't work. i once spent like 20 or 30 minutes trying to kill a simple bandit who was like 120 meters away and I just could not kill it. it also happens with nearer targets but i can manage to kill them. it's not fun tough

the same happens with other weapons except they have much more bullets and firing rates but you could just call that the recoil

overall i find the firing system frustrating and hitting an enemy doesn't really feels satisfying. i'm on the second playthrough and the last time i played i then started to loot better gear so it might be it (yes i traveled the first one and beggining of the second with the same weapons, barely ever looting better stuffs)

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by ActaNonVerba:

For me BL is one of those games you hate or love. I personally love it. Its gameplay, style, graphics and dark twisted humor are just some of the things I love about it. BL is an old game and a lot of the things you dislike we're fixed in BL2 and the Pre Sequel.

Overall I like BL2 better but I always come back to liking the first BL for its simplicity and bare basics. The story isn't the best but I enjoyed it all the same because of all the other elements. Every play through is a surprise because with this game you never know what you're going to get. I've maxed out 8+ characters on my 360 version and still enjoy it.

lastly this game did not receive much funding nor did they expect it to be nearly as successful as it was and I like that. 2K made a game they thought would be fun to them regardless of how popular it was going to be.

and not only that, but to an extent, the game is somewhat moddable (meaning that you can use a program [willowtree] to change your weapons/item stats to increase their damage and whatnot

[CrapAttackah]

ITS CALLED AN OPINION.

[ActaNonVerba]

So tell me, what is so good about borderlands or simply what do you enjoy about this game ?

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Yes and we are simply giving our opinions that he asked us for.

[Phi]

Well, the big thing about Borderlands, to me, at least, is the Diablo-like feel of the game, even though it is an FPS... you do not like this Sniper build, great, build a pistol one, or a melee, do whatever you like with those 3 skill trees you're given...
Still in this topic is the magic moment of your first legendary weapon, and how can you use it to melt your enemies faces off...
Other than that, this is a tremendously fun multi-player game... co-op in this game is very well made, there are several benefits from playing in a group.
The humour is a little bit far on the silly side, but, if that's your thing, you're right at home... and the style of the game plays perfectly into that setup
Also, do not use shotguns, if you want to hit something, go for sniper rifles, pistols/repeaters and smgs...

Alright, these were some of the goods, now for the bads
Vehicle control in this game is simply atrocious... however that is, reaching your goal gives quite the sense of acomplishment, for the wrong reasons, but it does.
the game is bugged as hell... there are so many bizarre and funny bugs to uncover... sometimes you will get stuck, or something that should show up will not... yeah... very rarely though... usually there is just some texture going bananas or something passing through a spot that it should not pass, without harm done.

Overall it is a great game that brought the RPG to the FPS genre in a silly way... no more System shock revolutionary seriousness, just madness on a madmax-like scenario... and just as over the top and fun...

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by Phi:

Well, the big thing about Borderlands, to me, at least, is the Diablo-like feel of the game, even though it is an FPS... you do not like this Sniper build, great, build a pistol one, or a melee, do whatever you like with those 3 skill trees you're given...
Still in this topic is the magic moment of your first legendary weapon, and how can you use it to melt your enemies faces off...
Other than that, this is a tremendously fun multi-player game... co-op in this game is very well made, there are several benefits from playing in a group.
The humour is a little bit far on the silly side, but, if that's your thing, you're right at home... and the style of the game plays perfectly into that setup
Also, do not use shotguns, if you want to hit something, go for sniper rifles, pistols/repeaters and smgs...

Alright, these were some of the goods, now for the bads
Vehicle control in this game is simply atrocious... however that is, reaching your goal gives quite the sense of acomplishment, for the wrong reasons, but it does.
the game is bugged as hell... there are so many bizarre and funny bugs to uncover... sometimes you will get stuck, or something that should show up will not... yeah... very rarely though... usually there is just some texture going bananas or something passing through a spot that it should not pass, without harm done.

Overall it is a great game that brought the RPG to the FPS genre in a silly way... no more System shock revolutionary seriousness, just madness on a madmax-like scenario... and just as over the top and fun...

I partially disagree about the shotguns, because it all depends on which ones you go for? I either use Sledge's Shotgun (for upclose in-your-face fights), or the Dahl Bulldog w/Shock (when fighting Craw Maggots or enemies with shields)

[Dingerdonger]

Because you're a fcktard. And whats this thing with the 90% accuracy? use this thing called ''Mouse'' and aim at them

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Originally posted by Spookydonger:

Because you're a fcktard. And whats this thing with the 90% accuracy? use this thing called ''Mouse'' and aim at them:tcry:

And once again someone who randomly insults another person and blames their skill/computer/ connection when they're just making a critic on the game system or something in those lines. And what annoys me is that as soon as I talked about the accuracy on Borderlands, this is most of the answers I got instead of getting an actual argument.
Now look, when I play a game that I like or have an interest in, my primary objective is to get good at it and get a good understanding of the how the game works (which isn't so uncommon). When I'm the one at fault for being a scrublord, I won't go on thousands of forums to say how bad the game is, I'll be mad at myself for being awful and maybe ask what did I do wrong and how can I improve myself (which isn't difficult in this game, just praise the godess of RNG to give you good loot). We all know that Borderlands isn't a complex game : you explore, you kill things, you get your loot, you level up, get new skills/passives, you get your reward and you move on, and the AI is far away from being the smartest AI ever that's going to dodge your shots and use tactics to kill you.
Do you seriously think I can't aim at the head of a non-moving target that's at about 30 meters away with a sniper rifle ? I may not have an MLG aim but I definitely know the difference when I miss my shots because I aimed poorly or couldn't manage the recoil or when it was the weapon's accuracy and from the hours I've played, it definitely was the weapon's accuracy considering my assault rifle could be more accurate than my sniper rifle. Or like pillbinge said because the game is mostly based about medium-range shooting.