Why are some of the bosses in this game so hard?

[dathip]

Like I am taking on sledge. Died to him once and took on him again and defeated him. But so much ammo was lost. I barely had any left. i beat him on lvl 17. Other characters like marley in the arid hills HAVE SO MUCH health. I do not have any corrosive weapons. So what are the best strategies to take these bosses on?

[slow tragoul]

i think sledge needs to be hit first with electricty to get rid of his shield, marley and other skags just require alot of bullets if you dont have a nice elemental gun. I just killed the destroyer and i completely ran out of ammo on every weapon type. (because all the guns that i found worth using were at least 10 levels below my own) It gets easier on 2nd play thru

[dathip]

hey fatlape, when you say it gets easier on a 2nd playthough, does that mean are weapons or content carry over?

[z00t]

Each boss has different strategies. All of them have critical points that you really should be aiming at. Usually tricky, but worth it. Shields go down quickly with electrical weapons, and slower with corrosive.
Moe and Marley - I suggest leaving them until a bit later, and do not go after them when you first get the missions. They can be a pain, since they are different elemental types. If you can, try to take them on singly. Both of them attacking you at once is really not much fun.
Personally, at the start of each of my characters I rather like the clipper - 9 Toes' incendiary pistol. It may be rated fairly low, but it does work well. For later on in the missions, there is Krom's pistol as well. Very, very useful I have found.
Skags - learn to shoot them in the mouth when they stop and howl at you. That is their critical point.
2nd playthrough does start in Fyrestone again, but this time you got all your guns and ammo and shields. Great. But all the enemies are now stronger.
This is true of the third playthrough (2.5). Bonehead at level 72 - not that easy to put down. :)
Fatflape - I sympathise with running out of ammo on that tentacled monstrocity. Been there, done that.
As far as weapons are concerned. I have played B1 a lot, including spending a long time farming for good weaponry - Knoxx's armoury has been looted many, many times, so I have a full bank and backpack of good quality weapons, all the way up to Lvl 69 pearlescents and legendaries. More than I can sensibly use.
If you want, tell me what specifically you are looking for, the level you are, and if I have something suitable, I can drop in to your game and drop some goodies for you to try out. If you just want to bump up your bank balance - I have got guns whose price is listed at $?,???,???. (over a million) No more worries about running out of money to buy ammo :)

[teisintai]

Well, first of all, if you find enemies difficult - try to change yourself - better gear or levelling (recommended above), or changing playstyle. Not all enemies need to be shot in the face. Sledge can be killed from small room with two doors that you pass on a way to him. Moe and Marley.. I just shot at one of them, and run all the way back to a first building of an area. There are boxes - jump on them, get on roof, shoot followed you skag in a mouth repeatedly.
Of course, some battles are plain unsuitable for that playstyle - notably, Skagzilla.
Oh, and about gear again - "Tediore is a way to go", as said by Marcus =) All Tediore oranges regen your ammo, so you can either use them as is, or bring with you and swap them in some safe place or before major battle.

[dathip]

thanks guys for the feedback, and I am good zoot. I will just buy ammo. I just gottta figure out strategies to beat each one.

[z00t]

Originally posted by dathip:

thanks guys for the feedback, and I am good zoot. I will just buy ammo. I just gottta figure out strategies to beat each one.

No problem. The offer is still there for some <whatever> weapons if you want them.
Go elemental, and as many x4 you can carry. Explosive is generally the most important to have - not many are resisatnt. Corrosive and incediary carry on working for you, and shock kills shields very quickly and stuns opponentsfor a bit.
Have fun. It is a great game.

[@lf]

@dathip

Not sure what class is your char but if you play with Roland ( Soldier ), the Support Gunner class mod is very handy ( a must have/use imo ) because of the Regen Ammo feature, if you run out of ammo too quickly.
Things on PL 2 will get easier. Enemies will be stronger but more powerful weps ( and shields, class mods, etc ) will come easier to get as well... and you will know already all the enemy/boss "tricks" and how to beat them =)

" on a 2nd playthough, does that mean are weapons or content carry over? "

All your lvls, weps, etc will carry over to PL 2 ( and from PL 2 to PL 2.5 )

[dathip]

Oh it carries over to Borderlands 2? I though, it was just borderlands New games+ with stuff

[z00t]

I think he means Playthrough 1, 2 and 2.5 when he says PL1, PL2.
Sadly, you can't import Borderlands weapons into Borderlands 2. This makes me sad. :(

[dathip]

Oh my my mistake, I thought he made a typo with PL instead of BL(Borderlands lol)

[Retro]

For Moe and Marley, I used a fire, caustic and standard projectile weapon, kept switching, firing and running like a scared rabbit. I like to be about 1 - 2 levels below them, makes for a great fight.

[@lf]

Originally posted by z00t:

I think he means Playthrough 1, 2 and 2.5 when he says PL1, PL2.
Sadly, you can't import Borderlands weapons into Borderlands 2. This makes me sad. :(

^ This is what i meant, Dathip. PL 1 = Playthrough 1, PL 2 = Playthrough 2, etc. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Meedro]

Originally posted by z00t:

I think he means Playthrough 1, 2 and 2.5 when he says PL1, PL2.
Sadly, you can't import Borderlands weapons into Borderlands 2. This makes me sad. :(

yes me too, i hate that they didn't include the Pestilent Defiler in BL2

@Dathip feel free to ask me for help any time you need, that's what friends are for :)

@everyone else there's very knowledgable people here, feel free to add me or join our group, or both :)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BORDERLANDSCO-OP

[z00t]

Originally posted by Meedro:

Originally posted by z00t:

I think he means Playthrough 1, 2 and 2.5 when he says PL1, PL2.
Sadly, you can't import Borderlands weapons into Borderlands 2. This makes me sad. :(

yes me too, i hate that they didn't include the Pestilent Defiler in BL2

@Dathip feel free to ask me for help any time you need, that's what friends are for :)

@everyone else there's very knowledgable people here, feel free to add me or join our group, or both :)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BORDERLANDSCO-OP

Glorius Serpens and Pearl Chimera for me - both awesome weapons. So is the defiler :)
But on the bright side, they do have Sledge's shotgun and the Jacobs Skullsmasher in B2. There may be more, but those are two I have dicovered so far. The Skullsmasher in B1 is Nasty. I have seen the result of a headshot leave the lower torso and legs. Overkill somewhat. (No such thing - hehe)

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by z00t:

Originally posted by Meedro:

yes me too, i hate that they didn't include the Pestilent Defiler in BL2

@Dathip feel free to ask me for help any time you need, that's what friends are for :)

@everyone else there's very knowledgable people here, feel free to add me or join our group, or both :)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BORDERLANDSCO-OP

Glorius Serpens and Pearl Chimera for me - both awesome weapons. So is the defiler :)
But on the bright side, they do have Sledge's shotgun and the Jacobs Skullsmasher in B2. There may be more, but those are two I have dicovered so far. The Skullsmasher in B1 is Nasty. I have seen the result of a headshot leave the lower torso and legs. Overkill somewhat. (No such thing - hehe)

I personally find the Bessie (a Jakobs pearlescent sniper) to be the best in the game, due to it being 100% accurate when zoomed in, and it's more nastier than the Skullmasher. plus, I find both the Serpens and the Ajax's Spear to be the best machine guns in the game, as the latter weapon will sometimes spawn with the Ogre Explosive accessory.

the HellFire, hands down, is the best SMG in the game, due to how the shots proc on every hit and quickly drains an enemy's heath (the same goes for the Firehawk pistol). the version I use with my Mordecai character is a real powerhouse, as I modified it further to deal extra shotgun damage (meaning it deals almost 700-Damage per hit), on top of its 12.5 fire-rate.