man the loot system is so bad in this game

[REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY]

its legit all over the place xd, really thought they could of done better

[Nakos]

They did do better, it's called BL2.

[REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY]

Originally posted by Nakos:

They did do better, it's called BL2.

thats what i hate, 2 was the golden boy. this game was just so bad

[Mirai]

It's no shock since this was their first try. They took what they learned worked and did not work here and put that into making BL2. I've been trying to play this game (started with BL2), just to say "I played them all" but this one is truly painful to try to slog through for me.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY:

Originally posted by Nakos:

They did do better, it's called BL2.

thats what i hate, 2 was the golden boy. this game was just so bad

The point is, that for 2009, it was pretty ground-breaking. No, it doesn't hold up as well over time as BL2, but there was 3+ years of development between the two. (And BL2 remained in active development for several years after the initial release).

It's the Journeyman effort. Like Mirai said, they took what they learned and made a better version.

This one is clunky, clumsy, maps are sprawling and empty, and there are lots of "go to the other side" quests where it takes just enough time for everything to respawn behind you, and then the next quest is "now go back".

One of the things I find amusing, is that many of the enemies have the same voice lines, by the same actors (as BL2), but the versions in BL1 are all stiff and wooden, and the BL2 versions are all better acted.

Many people prefer this one because it has a "borderlands/wasteland" feel to it, whereas BL2 has more of a zany, cyberpunk feel to it. But then again, many of those who prefer this one played this one first.

I play this one once in a while, because it's fun to see where it all came from, and it's fun to get to use the original VH's. But ultimately, I like BL2 better.

[WhateverWorks]

I've never found any problem with it. I've played since launch and have probably done about 7-8 runs of the first game over the years. Maybe more idk. It's my favorite personally, as least as far as the overall vibe goes. And I like the way this one actually had real distinction in terms of which brands were good for what. I played solo every time except one, and never found that I couldn't get good enough gear to keep up just by being thorough with the side questing.

I'd pay full price for BL 1 plot/settings/enemies/quests but with the graphics/gameplay of BL 3.

[Mirai]

Originally posted by Nakos:

and there are lots of "go to the other side" quests where it takes just enough time for everything to respawn behind you, and then the next quest is "now go back".

Oh yeah, that's been a real blast .... so are normal enemies seemingly taking 4-5 mags to kill. I mean it's possible I just need better guns but the guns are on level for the enemies I am shooting at, so they feel grossly ineffective, given that.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by Mirai:

Oh yeah, that's been a real blast .... so are normal enemies seemingly taking 4-5 mags to kill. I mean it's possible I just need better guns but the guns are on level for the enemies I am shooting at, so they feel grossly ineffective, given that.

Ennh... yeah, I say you might want to upgrade your guns. I'd also suggest making sure Aim Assist is turned off.

Try out some different weapons, or different manufacturers, they all tend to behave differently.

[Mirai]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Originally posted by Mirai:

Oh yeah, that's been a real blast .... so are normal enemies seemingly taking 4-5 mags to kill. I mean it's possible I just need better guns but the guns are on level for the enemies I am shooting at, so they feel grossly ineffective, given that.

Ennh... yeah, I say you might want to upgrade your guns. I'd also suggest making sure Aim Assist is turned off.

Try out some different weapons, or different manufacturers, they all tend to behave differently.

Well, I mean if you're shooting an enemy with a gun that is the same level as the enemy is, you'd expect it to be at least reasonably effective against them. But playing this game feels more like BL2 on TVHM mode or something.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by Mirai:

Well, I mean if you're shooting an enemy with a gun that is the same level as the enemy is, you'd expect it to be at least reasonably effective against them. But playing this game feels more like BL2 on TVHM mode or something.

Depends on the gun.

Some are extremely effective. Some ... not so much. You gotta try them out.