Why change the aircraft's names?

[Lithium]

Do you have to pay royalties or something to use them? If so, I thought using IRL weapon names was public domain when it comes to entertainment?

[Orifan1]

some weapons are, but anything modern to modernish (that covers everything in this game) is not public domain.
why do you think ace combat 7's startup has that screen that shows all the aircraft manufacturers names and logos? you need to be licensed to use aircraft designs you dont own and its on a title by title basis.
we're semi-lucky that ace combat 8 wont just be an episodic release based on ace combat 7

[Z3r0_]

IP laws regarding this stuff are a mess, it's better to just err on the side of caution these days.

[kschang77]

Trademark, bro. Trademark.

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/85638-are-aircraft-designations-and-names-trademarked/

[Lithium]

Originally posted by kschang77:

Trademark, bro. Trademark.

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/85638-are-aircraft-designations-and-names-trademarked/

Lame >:L
Silly that military weapon names are trademarked >:L

[Orifan1]

Originally posted by Lithium:

Originally posted by kschang77:

Trademark, bro. Trademark.

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/85638-are-aircraft-designations-and-names-trademarked/

Lame >:L
Silly that military weapon names are trademarked >:L

Capitalism, Ho!

[Z3r0_]

Originally posted by Orifan1:

Originally posted by Lithium:

Lame >:L
Silly that military weapon names are trademarked >:L

Capitalism, Ho!

More like "obtuse intellectual property laws, ho!"

One of the big flaws of many IP laws, but especially America's, is that your IP automatically enters the public domain if you don't defend it against every single potential case of infringement that you can find. Now that said, it can be a bit of a gray area with stuff like weapons and military vehicles, which often have their designations assigned to them, at least in part, by the government. I believe this was brought up in the lawsuit between Colt and Bushmaster over the issue of the M4 carbine...or, specifically, whether only Colt could sell carbines by that name (meaning they own the name) or if anybody can (meaning the government owns the name and thus it's in the public domain). Colt lost that case, but it might be different when the entities aren't in the same industry as each other.

[cyäegha]

older OKB projects, such as the MiG-21, are generally fair game due to not being privately-owned entities, but anything modern - post-USSR-east, or west, doesn't matter - is as much intellectual property as this game is and, yeah, subject to trademark laws

it's much easier to just slap fictionalized names on everything and call it a day than it is to wrangle a mixture of real designations and noms de guerre

[Naruto 607]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

it's much easier to just slap fictionalized names on everything and call it a day than it is to wrangle a mixture of real designations and noms de guerre

and increases the cost of making this game, thus, increasing the sale price. People will then be nitpicky about choosing either this one or Ace Combat.

I wonder if there are indie games that are sold with prices equivalent to most AAA games.

BTW,

Originally posted by kschang77:

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/85638-are-aircraft-designations-and-names-trademarked/

Just by looking at that Combatace name on the link, I heard that the guy there once created HD aircraft models of LockOn games like Modern Air Combat, Flaming Cliffs, and Flaming Cliffs 2. I like his model releases.

[Orifan1]

Originally posted by Z3r0_:

Originally posted by Orifan1:

Capitalism, Ho!

More like "obtuse intellectual property laws, ho!"

Capitalism, Ho!