Civ 5 Gold and "Brave New World"

[Splint]

Unfortunately, Civilization 5 has become a bit of a DLC milking cow. I originally pre-ordered the game, and the game sucked when it came out.
Just some time ago, I picked it up, because my friends kept asking me if it was worth it, and I thought: "Why not give it a try".
I've always thought the 4th was better than the 5th.

When trying the game again, I definitely noticed a lot of changes. So I went out to get the Gold Upgrade pack. So, not I have Civilization 5 Gold edition, but gold edition should have all DLCs, so I went to look at the upcoming Brave New World expansion, and noticed it is not included in the Gold Edition. Is this because it has not been released yet?
Is it not included in the gold edition?
Will we have access for it on launch, or do we have to pre-order the bloody expansion?

/Splint

[Mazey]

The gold edition existed before BNW was even announced, that's why it's not included.
So yes, if you want it, you need to buy it.

[Cat]

To be honest the new dlc doesn't add all that much. It'll be worthless but for the fans that are already clocking up hundreds of hours of gameplay and by now would be real suckers for every new map, mode or research. So if you aren't one of them, you will be just fine without it, if you are one of them, well spending money on dlcs won't hurt quite as much.

[Etherlight]

I disagree with you. Civ V's expansions add significant layers of strategic depth to the core game, even the small factions DLC add new strategies to each unique civilizations. They are hardly DLC milking cow you described. Most other games just sell you unit skins and a handful of maps for quick money grabs, but Firaxis has put a lot of efforts in their DLCs and they are definitely worthy of your money.

BTW as stated above, BNW is not even out yet so it is not part of the gold edition, which came out last year.

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

I can your point of view, Rainbow Cat but I don't agree with it. Well... I mean, what I think is that the more you like a game and the more you play it, the more worthwhile an expansion or DLC is for you. I will cheerfully buy extra stuff for games I love, like Borderlands franchise, Far Cry 3, Elder Scrolls games but I really get annoyed by the price of dlc for games I don't play much like Paradox grand strategy.

You might very well ask why I carry on buying dlc for games I don't play- well it's a psychological weakness- a completionist nature.

[TexasRoast]

if I were you, I wouldn't preorder the expansion pack until others have played it and given it the thumbs up. If you were to look at the civ website, you would see all the changes that have been made and those changes are not really to my taste. All the civ games have their personal strengths and weaknesses, but the new expansion pack just seems to add a new level of micromanaging. I mean trading is cool and all and in a game like age of empires it is awesome; in civ though, its really pushing the limits of just how much you can do in a given amount of time...

oh ya, and if you don't buy the dlc's when they are all on sale, then your a sucker. if you buy them while they were on sale and complain about it...well...you get what you pay for...

[Splint]

Thank you for your feed back.

Etherlight, I do see your point of view, but since when do you "Need" small countries, like Denmark which has never really been included in a Civ game before? Why can't you just do with the standard civilizations provided? I certainly do like that my own nationality is in the game, and I also must admit that I do like the changes made to the gameplay.
I just do not really like the idea of going out and buy a game, and to get the full experience, you'll have to pay twice as much for dlc's.

[Splint]

i8stinkychee, I do agree with you some games are not worth the full price. There for I'd like to reccomend you an of steam CD Key House.
https://www.g2play.net/store/Sid-Meier-s-Civilization-V-Brave-New-World-DLC-Steam-Key.html

A friend asked me to try them out, you usually get your key within few minutes, and the service is great. Plus, if you live in Europe, this will most likely be worth it.

[samthecoy]

I agree with the expansions, as what they add is very valuable to the core gaming experience. For example BNW introduces 4 major gameplay mechanics.
DLCs in my opinion are less worth it. Firaxis said after fans complained last year that they would stick to expansions rather than small-fry DLC.

[MIGHTYANDYMAN]

Personally i think it's great that they continue to support a game with new content, that was made in 2010 , will i buy brave new world?, probably when its on sale

[samthecoy]

You can get it from greenmangaming for £13.50 (not sure in dollars but its pretty damn cheap) with the promo code GMG25-GDSAK-7FPWQ. It's as cheap as it will get for a long while :)

[TheScotsman]

All these improvements are mostly ones which were in some form of another included in previous civ games. Of course the level of depth is not the same and isnt expected to be so however anyone who disagrees with micromanagement in a game like this doesnt know what they are playing.

Any civ game you are suppose to care about your cities, defense, research, production etc which because of the dumbed down civ v for the more "main stream gamers" aka casuals then its becoming less and less complicated and features are being left out for future dlcs.

[samthecoy]

You forget that vanilla Civ IV was pretty ♥♥♥♥♥, until the two EXPANSION PACKS made it better.

[Splint]

I totally agree, and it is what I wrote in the topic. Because it was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ was the reason I sticked with Civ 4, because it was WAY better.

[Piotrek, Engineer of Design]

Just wait for the final Super-Duper Game-Of-The-Year Gold Platinum Complete One-To-Rule-Them-All edition of Civilization V which will include all of the addons.

[samthecoy]

Civ has come a long way though, and if the Civ community wants a third expansion for V (and Firaxis makes one), Civ 5 WILL have more new ideas.