Sid Meier's Civilization V

Sid Meier's Civilization V

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Ghostlight Jan 20, 2014 @ 12:49pm
Harbour not working?
Playing vanilla Civ 5....

I had my capital on the coast and I took a risk for my 6th city and built it extremely far away on a lone island that had pearls and gold. I then built a Harbour which I thought should connect it to the trade network, but it didn't. So then I tried building another Harbour in the capital...nothing.

Eventually, a thousand years later and when I spread so far down the continent that I was quite near the little island, I noticed city #6 was finally connected. No idea why it worked like this. Anyone?
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greg_chow_13 Jan 20, 2014 @ 1:10pm 
Harbor's are like roads on water.You need one on each island

If your capital isn't on the coast with a harbor of it's own then you need a road connecting at least one city with a harbor to the capital.

Here is where you might be running into issues

-You need a visible(discovered) unbroken path of water tiles between harbors for them to form a link.

-Harbors can be blockaded by enemy ships (including barbarians) CS's or AI's territory. This stops them creating a trade link.
Last edited by greg_chow_13; Jan 20, 2014 @ 1:18pm
friend robocat Jan 20, 2014 @ 1:43pm 
yeah this should be the one:


-You need a visible (discovered) path of water tiles between harbors for them to form a link.


It does work for cities stuck in inland seas. At least in GnK
mvon007 Jan 20, 2014 @ 2:23pm 
This also makes it possible to complete city-state requests for roads when they are on a different island from your capital. It is not obvious from the description.

It also makes totally bizarre the concept of impassable ocean on island maps, as parts of the map can take a very long time to get to, but harbours don't seem to mind.
Damsteri Jan 20, 2014 @ 2:30pm 
Do you still have an old save game form that game? You could compare those two. You can also see the city connection in the strategic view, but it only draws lines for land connection,

Was there a city connection symbol when the harbour was built? That black circle with three yellow dots.
Damsteri Jan 20, 2014 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by mvon007:
This also makes it possible to complete city-state requests for roads when they are on a different island from your capital. It is not obvious from the description.

It also makes totally bizarre the concept of impassable ocean on island maps, as parts of the map can take a very long time to get to, but harbours don't seem to mind.
Those missions can be done. They are trickier. You don't need to build harbour for every city in the other continent, harbour only work just as a road. You can build one city with a harbour to the other continent and then you can connect other cities you own to that harbour city to get city connection. In the same way you can connect inland city states from the other continents to your road network. Just build coastal city with a harbour and connect city state to that city.

EDIT:
One harbour per continent (continent = size of 1 tile or larger land mass) is enough to connect all cities to your road network.

EDIT 2:
Also... I have noticed that city states do not ask you to build a road unless you have a city on the same continent.
Last edited by Damsteri; Jan 20, 2014 @ 2:36pm
mvon007 Jan 20, 2014 @ 4:35pm 
Oh right. I think that request is also rarer now than pre-BNW, with requests for trade routes now, and those are pretty common.
Ghostlight Jan 20, 2014 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by 这不是我:
You need a visible (discovered) path of water tiles between harbors for them to form a link.

I think it was this. My capital was on the opposite side of a very large penninsula from my island city. By the time I noted the city had the trade icon, I held the entire penninsula.

One harbour per continent (continent = size of 1 tile or larger land mass) is enough to connect all cities to your road network.

Apart from this... :/
Damsteri Jan 20, 2014 @ 9:02pm 
Originally posted by Ghostlight:
One harbour per continent (continent = size of 1 tile or larger land mass) is enough to connect all cities to your road network.

Apart from this... :/
Little addition, so hopefully it's not misunderstood. You need only city with harbour, but you have to connect all other cities in that continent to that harbour city with roads then. Often it's easier and cheaper just build harbours to every coastal city.
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Date Posted: Jan 20, 2014 @ 12:49pm
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