Window's 8 vs DX 11(launcher settings)

[Shivago Joe]

sorry of this is a dumb question but I am currently running windows 8.1(64)-no touchscreens. What version do I want to run of Civ V. I am thinking DX 11 version but I just want to make sure I am not robbing myself of any preformance or eye candy visuals.

thx in advance
Shiv

[Zer0]

Windows 8 choice enables touchscreen features (also uses DX11). If you don't have a touchscreen use the standard DX11 one. There are no graphical difference between them.

[^masamichu^]

Were you able to get Win 8 to work? Just got a new pc with Win 8 and the game kept crashing after about 20 turns. I didn't see much of a difference between DX11 vs. Win 8 mode other than the touch screen option.

[The Rock God]

^masamichu^ の投稿を引用：

I didn't see much of a difference between DX11 vs. Win 8 mode other than the touch screen option.

That's because it's not a choice between "DX11 vs Win8 mode". It's a choice between regular DX11 or DX11 with Win8 Touch Mode Enabled. Both are the same DX11. One of them enables Win8 Touch Mode. I keep repeating Win8 Touch Mode because that's the difference. It's for playing the game in Touch mode on a computer running Win8 - that's all.

[Shivago Joe]

frames, CPU/GPU load are exactly the same so I was able to confirm that there is no difference in preformance or rendering thx 4 your help.


for Masamichu, one thing about windows 8 and gaming is its very finecky I had all sorts of issues until I went and searched my entire system for up-to-date windows drivers. everything from video to chipset, make sure ALL drivers are current. Once that is done it will morph your problem into a workable solution that will "clear up" any "smudged oversights". Ill be curious to see if this helps you at all. Come back let us know.

[Relapse]

Shivago の投稿を引用：

for Masamichu, one thing about windows 8 and gaming is its very finecky I had all sorts of issues until I went and searched my entire system for up-to-date windows drivers. everything from video to chipset, make sure ALL drivers are current.

Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Back to topic; Zer0 and The Rock God is right.

[Shivago Joe]

^ikr? sometimes I surprise even myself at how logic works stuff out for us =)

[^masamichu^]

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Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Yeah that's the standard 'it's your problem go away' answer. This is a brand new pc and even so first thing I did was update everything before installing stuff. Civ 5 is the only game with problems. Did a search last night, there are a lot of people having problems with Civ and Windows 8.1 especially since BNW. 2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned.

[Relapse]

^masamichu^ の投稿を引用：

Relapse の投稿を引用：

Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Yeah that's the standard 'it's your problem go away' answer. This is a brand new pc and even so first thing I did was update everything before installing stuff. Civ 5 is the only game with problems. Did a search last night, there are a lot of people having problems with Civ and Windows 8.1 especially since BNW. 2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned.

Cool story, I played 600 hours of Civ V on W8/8.1 machine without a problem. It's your problem; you didn't upgrade your drivers and software. Simple as that. Civ V works perfectly fine for me and my friends on W8. Learn to maintain your computer software wise.

" 2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned."

I laughed so hard.

[Zer0]

^masamichu^ の投稿を引用：

Relapse の投稿を引用：

Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Yeah that's the standard 'it's your problem go away' answer. This is a brand new pc and even so first thing I did was update everything before installing stuff. Civ 5 is the only game with problems. Did a search last night, there are a lot of people having problems with Civ and Windows 8.1 especially since BNW. 2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned.

Playing BNW on 8 and 8.1, no issues here. I say it's a user problem.

[The Rock God]

^masamichu^ の投稿を引用：

Relapse の投稿を引用：

Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Yeah that's the standard 'it's your problem go away' answer. This is a brand new pc and even so first thing I did was update everything before installing stuff. Civ 5 is the only game with problems.

Did a search last night, there are a lot of people having problems with Civ and Windows 8.1 especially since BNW.

2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned.

If you had done a more thorough search, you would have also discovered that a lot of people have problems with this game on Windows 7. And Vista. And XP. And OSX. Let's not forget people using Linux with Wine.

As is quite obvious, this game doesn't run on any operating systems. Well, according to forum posts.

[Shivago Joe]

^masamichu^ の投稿を引用：

Relapse の投稿を引用：

Gaming in Windows 8 is "finecky", because your drivers and OS isn't up-to-date. That damn logic. :D

Yeah that's the standard 'it's your problem go away' answer. This is a brand new pc and even so first thing I did was update everything before installing stuff. Civ 5 is the only game with problems. Did a search last night, there are a lot of people having problems with Civ and Windows 8.1 especially since BNW. 2K says it is a Windows problem and MS says it is a 2K problem. So there it is. Windows 8 users be warned.

I promise it was not that type of reply. Sometimes we tend to focus on the complex issues, a sort of tech "knee jerk" reaction. The thing is when we do this we end up overlooking the simple "101" style issues, and every now an then we find our solution in the simple. I have found this to be the case more than once in my tenure as a tech.

People are frustrated and come here in hopes of easing that frustration. Last thing I would want to do is make that worse for someone. I hope your endeavors lead you to a solution, best of luck =)


PS ftr am running windows 8.1(64). Flawlessly. If I can then you can too. Hang in there =)

[Relapse]

Let me put it in this way;

I had 5-6 crashes during my total 800 hours of Civ V gameplay (First five on Windows 7 and last one on Windows 8). All of them user related.

I didn't want to be rude, but people quickly blame their operating system or other stuff for small issues in their computers. Windows 8 is the best gaming operating system, without a doubt. (It is a bad system, if you read those reddit nonsense)

- I installed Civ V Vanilla from disc, then I upgraded it to G&K via Steam. Random DX11 crash.
- Did the same thing for second time, same result.
- Installed whole game from Steam; problem solved.

- Upgraded G&K to BNW, DX11 crash again. Reinstalled whole game and problem solved.

- Random Civ V crash; it turned out to be MSI Afterburner or it's OSD program somehow conflicting with Civ V, doesn't matter if you have stock or very stable overclock settings. Afterburner also messed AMD PowerPlay, but it only caused a issue in Heroes 6, other games worked fine.

- Random Civ V and Shogun 2 crash and a BSOD; bumped +0.01 more Vcore voltage and problem solved.

I have to say; it works perfectly under Windows 7 and Windows 8. I had few issues with expansion pack upgrades, but reinstalling solved them.

For laptop users; don't keep the bloatware from your OEM. Keep your computer clean (software wise), keep it updated, maintain it from software wise, always make stress test on both CPU/GPU and test your RAM.

[Shivago Joe]

Relapse の投稿を引用：

Let me put it in this way;

I had 5-6 crashes during my total 800 hours of Civ V gameplay (First five on Windows 7 and last one on Windows 8). All of them user related.

I didn't want to be rude, but people quickly blame their operating system or other stuff for small issues in their computers. Windows 8 is the best gaming operating system, without a doubt. (It is a bad system, if you read those reddit nonsense)

- I installed Civ V Vanilla from disc, then I upgraded it to G&K via Steam. Random DX11 crash.
- Did the same thing for second time, same result.
- Installed whole game from Steam; problem solved.

- Upgraded G&K to BNW, DX11 crash again. Reinstalled whole game and problem solved.

- Random Civ V crash; it turned out to be MSI Afterburner or it's OSD program somehow conflicting with Civ V, doesn't matter if you have stock or very stable overclock settings. Afterburner also messed AMD PowerPlay, but it only caused a issue in Heroes 6, other games worked fine.

- Random Civ V and Shogun 2 crash and a BSOD; bumped +0.01 more Vcore voltage and problem solved.

I have to say; it works perfectly under Windows 7 and Windows 8. I had few issues with expansion pack upgrades, but reinstalling solved them.

For laptop users; don't keep the bloatware from your OEM. Keep your computer clean (software wise), keep it updated, maintain it from software wise, always make stress test on both CPU/GPU and test your RAM.

Indeed...
very well said =)

[BeAiR]

ohh

[Shivago Joe]

Asechka ^_^ の投稿を引用：

ohh

really?