tips for indoctrinated achievement

[crackmore]

Any quick qays or tips to get the indoctrinated achievement (lose dominant status in holy city to an opponent's religion) i've tried to set it up playing against a lot of religious civs that i often see spammin missionaries, but they are never rude enough to convert my holy city with a prophet, i understand that this achievement will come by coincidence at some point but i'm getting tired of seeing it my bar of most achieved unearned achievements in library and i want to go back to starting holy wars and bombarding the ♥♥♥♥ out of great prophets that dare to get close instead of staying docile and hope AI is reckless/rude/balsy enough to convert holy city

[cerberusiv]

I got this one somewhat by chance playing with G&K - don't know if the AI's work the same in BNW.

I seem to remember I converted an AI Holy City to try and slow down that AI from spamming missionaries and that seemed to cause that AI to focus on prophets to reconvert its own cities. It then sent a prophet I didn't notice that sailed in and converted my Holy City. Obviously, when they asked me to stop converting their cities I told them no.

Missionaries aren't enough to convert a Holy City, it has to be a prophet, so setting up something like what happened to me might be worth a try.

Isabella is your best bet, maybe on a duel size pangea map, just be sure to be rude so she doesn't like you.

[Matthew]

Be slow on forming a religion and don't spread it to any of your other cities. In fact, you can help spread the neighboring religion if you must. If there is enough surrounding pressure, it will overcome the pressure of your holy city and eventually convert it.

[Danny]

England loves to prophet bomb my holy city when I play... :\

[Matthew]

Also, it would help to keep the population of the holy city somewhat low-ish. If growth rate is too high, that just keeps adding more citizens which could just delay how long it takes to convert. Hell, form the religion in some tiny satellite city near a ton of surrounding cities of an opposing religion. That should flip it back in no time.

[Hapxier]

Originally posted by Matthew:

Also, it would help to keep the population of the holy city somewhat low-ish. If growth rate is too high, that just keeps adding more citizens which could just delay how long it takes to convert. Hell, form the religion in some tiny satellite city near a ton of surrounding cities of an opposing religion. That should flip it back in no time.

This man speaks truth.

Knowing how the opponents spread religion also helps- they'll radiate outward from their holy city, going for the closest unconverted cities first. It's entirely possible to get two major religious AIs to go into a conversion war because they're close to each other, leaving your cities untouched simply because they're not the closest unconverted city. A duel map- just you and one other civ -avoids this issue entirely. Build up as normal, earn your great prophet, then send him out behind a settler. Settle next to the AI, then plonk down your religion in the brand-new city. The AI will flood it with missionaries, and you'll have the achievement in no time.

[ppaladin123]

Ethiopia, Spain and Byzantium are obsessed with producing missionaries and launch them at you in droves so selecting them as opponents may help.