City Connections

[jiasen238]

I could not find relevant info online/forums regarding this:

Would a city connection with a City State be considered if i merely join roads from a tile from within my border to a tile from within their border?

Also, how do you guys construct city connections? By starting the worker from the heart of the city and press the "build route to" button then click on the final destination? Or manually work each tile?

[Goodböi]

To connect with at city-state you must build road all the way to the city itself, just like in your own empire. The road must also connect with one of your cities that has a trade route.
As for how to build road I usually go with the "build route to" option, however, sometimes you can plan routes for roads that enables your units to move even faster to certain locations or between cities which might require that you build them manually.

[SamBC]

Just to be clear, though, you don't get anything from a city connection to a CS unless they've issued a quest for one.

[arhat]

Always direct your workers by manual command. If doing a route to a city state best to start from next to the city state as they build up units making it difficult to get onto a tile to work. Also you are not lumbered with the gold cost of maintaining the road in your territory until the road nears completion.

[gimmethegepgun]

I never use 'route to' for any remotely significant distance. It's unpredictable what path they'll actually take unless you gave them a perfectly straight line to go across. This means wasted money due to building more roads than necessary (because you can minimize the number of roads while keeping the same travel time by laying them out correctly) and/or subpar usefulness for military movement.
Also, particularly for the early game, you can save some money by not completing the roads outright through manual control (meaning build for 2 turns and then move to the next one, and when you come back through again you'll finish the road in 1 turn). That way you don't have to pay for the road for as much time while still getting the same financial benefit.

[jiasen238]

Thank you all for the valuable info guys!

[jiasen238]

Originally posted by Goodböi:

To connect with at city-state you must build road all the way to the city itself, just like in your own empire. The road must also connect with one of your cities that has a trade route.

What does it mean for the road to be connected with one of your cities that has a trade route?
Meaning the road from my city must be a city which has an existing trade route at least to somewhere else?

[jiasen238]

Originally posted by SamBC:

Just to be clear, though, you don't get anything from a city connection to a CS unless they've issued a quest for one.

Ohh, I thought I would get income from city connection to CS because i see "+8.61 gold" from my completed road connecting two of my own cities?

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by jiasen238:

Originally posted by Goodböi:

To connect with at city-state you must build road all the way to the city itself, just like in your own empire. The road must also connect with one of your cities that has a trade route.

What does it mean for the road to be connected with one of your cities that has a trade route?
Meaning the road from my city must be a city which has an existing trade route at least to somewhere else?

No, it must be connected to your capital, using the same rules as city connections, which means a direct road connection to the capital, a harbor connection to the capital, or some combination of harbors and roads that results in being connected to the capital. There must be a road between the CS and a city that is connected to the capital (meaning the city connection icon pops up, meaning you're getting gold from the connection)

[SamBC]

Originally posted by jiasen238:

Originally posted by SamBC:

Just to be clear, though, you don't get anything from a city connection to a CS unless they've issued a quest for one.

Ohh, I thought I would get income from city connection to CS because i see "+8.61 gold" from my completed road connecting two of my own cities?

That's only for connections between your capital and your own cities.

[jiasen238]

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

Originally posted by jiasen238:

What does it mean for the road to be connected with one of your cities that has a trade route?
Meaning the road from my city must be a city which has an existing trade route at least to somewhere else?

No, it must be connected to your capital, using the same rules as city connections, which means a direct road connection to the capital, a harbor connection to the capital, or some combination of harbors and roads that results in being connected to the capital. There must be a road between the CS and a city that is connected to the capital (meaning the city connection icon pops up, meaning you're getting gold from the connection)

ohh thank you so much! this saved me a lot of trouble because I was planning to build a road from the CS directly to my capital, which is very far away!

[jiasen238]

Originally posted by SamBC:

Originally posted by jiasen238:

Ohh, I thought I would get income from city connection to CS because i see "+8.61 gold" from my completed road connecting two of my own cities?

That's only for connections between your capital and your own cities.

Thank you! I shall connect cities to capitals then when necessary (i hope the gold generated is more than the maintenance)

[Ultrablockstar]

Originally posted by jiasen238:

Originally posted by SamBC:

That's only for connections between your capital and your own cities.

Thank you! I shall connect cities to capitals then when necessary (i hope the gold generated is more than the maintenance)

The rule of thumb is that the length of the road should be equal or less than the least populated city (of the two you're connecting).

For example, let's say your capital is at 8 population, and there's a city 5 tiles away. Basically wait for the other city to reach 5 population before building a road between the two cities.

Like that the maintenance is counterbalanced with the gold input (which will increase as both cities grow and/or as you go farther into certain social policies)

[jiasen238]

Originally posted by Ultrablockstar:

Originally posted by jiasen238:

Thank you! I shall connect cities to capitals then when necessary (i hope the gold generated is more than the maintenance)

The rule of thumb is that the length of the road should be equal or less than the least populated city (of the two you're connecting).

For example, let's say your capital is at 8 population, and there's a city 5 tiles away. Basically wait for the other city to reach 5 population before building a road between the two cities.

Like that the maintenance is counterbalanced with the gold input (which will increase as both cities grow and/or as you go farther into certain social policies)

Thanks for the insight. However I think for my current game I require a long road between my capital an captured city for my military mobility to capture more lands easily. Playing as warmonger :D