Forbidden Palace

[8-bit]

Can you win a diplomatic victory without the Forbidden Palace?

[Eskimo_Quin]

you don't need it to win a diplo victory

[8-bit]

Thanks. I was obsessing over it and could see that as the only way.

[knighttemplar1960]

The Forbidden Palace is only 2 votes. You can make that up with 2 city states or by following the world religion.

[8-bit]

My last game I managed to bribe all the city states and was following the world religion but was still short by two. :(

[lukebaird84]

Originally posted by 8-bit:

My last game I managed to bribe all the city states and was following the world religion but was still short by two. :(

did some city-states get conquered?

[Damsteri]

It can be hard to get the diplo victory in the first vote, but that's it might not be necessary to win it. There will be a next round. First two nations on each round get two extra votes for the next voting.

[8-bit]

Originally posted by lukebaird84:

Originally posted by 8-bit:

My last game I managed to bribe all the city states and was following the world religion but was still short by two. :(

did some city-states get conquered?

I really don't know but that might have been the reason I guess. I never thought of that!

[kkeday]

I think the Diplomatic Victory is the Easiest to win. Sometimes I turn it off. If you resurrect a Civ, they will vote for you. Combine this with Autocracy/Gunboat diplomacy & a large military, then the City States will be yours. Also you can always conquer the city with the Forbidden Palace as well, but the happiness bonus for your puppets is more important than the 2 votes.

[VIPER_]

yes
by being ally with other cities

[valera-wrx]

diplomatic victory is not a victory

[8-bit]

I'll take any victory!

Still learning this game and still quite poor at it.Have managed to move up to Prince level and I think I might be on that setting for a while!

[lukebaird84]

Diplomatic victory is economic victory.

You have successfully printed more money than the U.S. government.

[valera-wrx]

Originally posted by 8-bit:

I'll take any victory!

Still learning this game and still quite poor at it.Have managed to move up to Prince level and I think I might be on that setting for a while!

well, I am just joking :D
if diplomatic victory comes from revived civs, world religion/world ideology, bought from diplomacy and from spies as diplomats I am ok with it. But if it is just buying all city-states it is a bit of AI abuse, as AI could easily prevent such victory if they wanted.

[kkeday]

Originally posted by valera-wrx:

Originally posted by 8-bit:

I'll take any victory!

Still learning this game and still quite poor at it.Have managed to move up to Prince level and I think I might be on that setting for a while!

well, I am just joking :D
if diplomatic victory comes from revived civs, world religion/world ideology, bought from diplomacy and from spies as diplomats I am ok with it. But if it is just buying all city-states it is a bit of AI abuse, as AI could easily prevent such victory if they wanted.

Sometimes when I the demographics have "1" in every category & my win is assured; then I am glad to finish as quickly as possible by using the diplomatic victory. I think the cultural victory is the most fun, when you win with a rock concert. Spaceships are always cool. Domination is rare, because I reach a point where I know I will win, but then cleaning up the last few Civs can be boring - so I just take the Diplomatic victory from the city state votes.

[8-bit]

I wish I was good enough to be able to choose! :s