Where would you settle?

[PhilGoodInc]

I am settling a new city across the ocean. My aim is for it to be a science city because of the jungle tiles, however, I am unsure if I should settle on the coast (where the settler is now on some forest) or if I should go Inland (2 tiles to the right of the settler) to maximize the jungle tiles the city can work? My other concern is can I connect to my capital if the city is inland?

Screenshot:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1129160856

[Söder Bröder]

coast

[ForevaNoob Wonemorturn]

Coast. Always coast, if only for the view, if nothing else even more important like navy and best trading. Coast always. 90% of my cities are coastal. Right where your settler is, not to mention the river. You'd need a harbor to connect with your capital as long as that capital is coastal, or inland but connected to one of your coastal cities (with a harbor) by road.
Or all coastal cities, but all with harbors.

[The Rock God]

I wouldput it on the silk, then buy up the tiles next to the CS. You'll get the most land tiles that way (and more jungle).

[Damsteri]

Not a very good location overall.. just one luxury resource. But it seems that there is no better places available. Then, in case you want to make a large city, I would put the city to the hill you said, where your pikeman is. You would get a large city, old faithful should be counted as a mountain for observatory and lots of jungle tile. It's a place for a large science city, there is nothing else.

One bonus fact. Srategic resources are located near city states quite often, in their 3-5 rings. So, city at middle of the island would be able to grab those from city states.

You would not be able make a city connection (without another city on coast), it's a small handicap. Coastal city should have half of it's tiles in useless water tiles and won't have a mountain for observatory, so I would go to inland science city. You could get food cargo ships if the city is coastal, but that city location is full of food, so it won't be needed and will be better used elsewhere. I don't see real benefits for a coastal city, because city location has enough food and lacks gold tiles.

[civ]

yea i wouldn't have bothered settling at all, firstly there's no defending that city without a great amount of annoyance next to 2 city states that could be anyones ally.

Second your "main" cities should have been settled millenia ago, e.g should have been growing/getting science buildings the whole game up till now with great population. Cities this late into a game are not for science but if you need somewhere to attack from with planes or to get resources like oil aluminium or coal if you really need it. Not to settle a useless wonder.

Lastly get the better wonders pack it makes wonders like old faithful much better (2 happiness, 8 science, 4 gold)

[PhilGoodInc]

Yeah, this is the only suitable land that hasn't already been settled on. Its showing me the map type is Fractal in the menu, I had selected random civ, random map type. My start was good (mostly plains and a few floodplains as Netherlands) but I only have 1 coastal city, so navy isnt all that existant.

Im fairly new to playing civ, have watched a few games on youtube over the years, bought it last year and won a science victory while also eliminating my neighbouring civs on settler difficulty. After a long break, Ive come back to It with all the DLC and really enjoying it. Have yet to have a victory that wasnt a score victory since coming back though, so I hope to actually get a proper victory this time. Maybe it was the difficulty skip to cheiftain? I dunno.

Another thought I had was, what if I created the inland city and also made a size 1 city on the coast and select avoid growth just to get the coastal connection? Any consequences in doing that?

[BubblestationCPH]

I would go for the hilltile left of the bananas, with mountain within 2 tiles and the natural wonder 3 tiles away, still in reach of the luxury

But tbh.. im not sure i would settle at all

[Damsteri]

Originally posted by PhilGoodInc:

Another thought I had was, what if I created the inland city and also made a size 1 city on the coast and select avoid growth just to get the coastal connection? Any consequences in doing that?

Extra city will increase the cost of your policies and technologies, so that would slow you down.

[General Malaise]

I wouldn't want a city there. If I captured one, I'd raze it - it's rubbish. I guess next to or maybe on the Silk, if I had to choose.

[BubblestationCPH]

Why on the silk?? the idea is a science city.. the mountains alone will boost that by 50 %

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by BubblestationCPH:

Why on the silk?? the idea is a science city.. the mountains alone will boost that by 50 %

It's 1610. That city will never be any good. If you settle next to mountain for Observatory, the game will be over before that city is any worth - even if you send two food, and 2 production trade routes. if You settle next to mountain, it will never grow to Silk, so permanently cost you 4 happiness.

Settle on Silk, you get the Lux instantly, and the gold in your city without having to work it.

It's possible the Natural Wonder counts as a mountain, I'm not sure. Most of the science is over come 1610, you're probably near Research Labs.

I'd scrap the idea, it won't help you. That's my opinion anyway.

:)

[BubblestationCPH]

Originally posted by Leland Stottlemeyer:

buy 2 tiles and youre golden

edit ; but yea. i wouldnt settle there in the first place. i would build an army and crush em all

[Damsteri]

This is why this game is Great. So simple and not even important move in the game, and every player has their own opinion and strategy for it. There is no optimal strategy for every situation, so each game is different and even games played by different persons from same save game end up being very different (that's fun btw).

[Mr. Monday]

I'd be settling right where your setller is in the picture, but not for the science. It'd be to deny the AIs from gaining control over the natural wonder and the resource that are there, and to set up a secure area for any sort of ground invasion I'd want to do later.

[lukebaird84]

Originally posted by BubblestationCPH:

Why on the silk?? the idea is a science city.. the mountains alone will boost that by 50 %

For this reason I'd settle next to the mountains on the Bananas, unless of course Old Faithful counts as a mountain.