bow draw time

[MrΩ]

I play max difficulty and I did watch some streams which made me discover that my bow draw time is significantly slower at the same skill level and bow level (crude).

Which world modifier is slowing down bow draw time???

[Ashley]

That doesn't exactly mean that. I've seen guides for bosses, seen the guides and went "that's enough time to properly react" gone into the fight and realized boss mechanics happens faster than it looks
Time it and while I don't really mod I don't know if there's an actual bowstring pull speed mod

[MrΩ]

Why I don't understand you guys??

Anyway, I am going to double check with other streams, if I manage to find some with the same bow upgrade level and same bow skill level.

[Quineloe]

I always thought weapon skills soft capped at 40 and gains after that weren't as big? I guess that doesn't apply to everybody's darling weapon type.

[Tarc Novar]

Originally posted by Quineloe:

I always thought weapon skills soft capped at 40 and gains after that weren't as big? I guess that doesn't apply to everybody's darling weapon type.

What soft cap? Please read the wiki for further information on how skills work.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Skills

Originally posted by MrΩ:

Why I don't understand you guys??

Anyway, I am going to double check with other streams, if I manage to find some with the same bow upgrade level and same bow skill level.

No, stop looking at streamers. Your gameplay is what matters here, not what some streamer has.

[Booneblaster]

could be an ini file tweak. which is basically a mod.
but good points. enjoyment of any game is highly personal and also includes a dose of patience. if u cant enjoy the journey, you wont enjoy the game.
good game.
and good to know about those draw times at high skill levels.

[Draconis]

@OP: If you really want to see if that might be due to a world modifier nobody here thought of, you will probably have to toggle all your world modifiers one by one to see if any of these make a difference.

Thinking from a coder's point of view I would suspect the the combat difficulty modifier. It states that it tweaks the mob's stats as well as your dealt damage. The latter is the point in question, because the easiest way to achieve this AND explain your observations might be a hidden bonus to your combat skill levels on easier combat difficulty and a malus on the harder difficulty.

Just a hunch though, haven't actually tested this.

Edit: Found a wrong point myself - combat modifier does not affect mob stats, only your damage dealt and taken by description

Edit 2: Seems I was completely wrong about this. Just tried it with a stopwatch and my drawtime is the same on easiest and hardest combat.

[Draconis]

Originally posted by Tarc Novar:

Originally posted by MrΩ:

Again the bow skills were the same, 15, level 2 crude bow. The first thing which came to my mind when he was shooting the elder: "wait, he has an insane fire rate, even though he does not shoot early". Same skill level, same bow, same bow upgrade, I did fire up valheim and tested: MY BOW DRAW TIME WAS SLUGGISH TO HELL COMPARED TO HIS.

If the bow draw time was substantially shorter, then that means the streamer was using mods. This is the only explanation that fits. Please stop trying to read everything else into it.

I agree on the mod part. There is no way to tell whether or not the streamer uses a mod to reduce draw time and stamina cost and whatnot other than from observing abnormal gameplay.

[MrΩ]

Originally posted by Tarc Novar:

I agree on the mod part. There is no way to tell whether or not the streamer uses a mod to reduce draw time and stamina cost and whatnot other than from observing abnormal gameplay.

Did check other streamers, yep, it seems related to that specific streamer, at that specific time... who now has "normal" bow draw time...

So mods or bugs (at any level, world modifiers, unity, OS, etc), dunno. But from now on, I'll stay alert on that matter while watching valheim streams.

[Kackstift]

use it.. it will be faster.. bow is the most OP weapon and get the most dps+ by leveling.

[Nopax]

The bow mastery reduces draw time and accelerates the aim speed besides increasing damage bonus - but there are mods to aim and shoot even faster. And potions/scroll mods for temporary increased bow skill

[MrΩ]

Originally posted by Tuxedo:

Not this one, he was leveling the Bow Skill in a Burial Chamber.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7G7IwYucv0QypuusmoHRV0xzEP0VN-Vd

93 bow skill, a machine gun indeed. How long to level up the bow until 90? (did not go thru all his vids... dunno in which one it does level up)

(I may try to do the same in my current run, that's why I watch streams, to get "ideas", we are a community after all)

That said, no fire hazard? x2 resource rate instead of x0.5? Not very vikink to me. This is not "perma death", it is "hardcore" (you still respawn in your bed with the same character). Maybe the devs will make "hardcore" death penalty a real perma death: character deletion and disconnection from the server/world map (you can re-create a new character which spawns at the map center though). I do play max difficulty: I do die often, I have near 0 stats all the time, I suspect I won't be able to play in later stages of the game if I die and lose my stats and armor then.

(careful, I got a valve ban warning for that kind of content post: it may be considered advertisement if somebody is making money in the loop, and this platform does, better post the vids on steam itself.).

[Mineralwasser]

Originally posted by MrΩ:

93 bow skill, a machine gun indeed. How long to level up the bow until 90? (did not go thru all his vids... dunno in which one it does level up)

If you use bows as a mainweapon you will reach a sufficient skilllevel pretty fast. If you still want to speed things up you have some options. But i think the natural progression is fine.

Step 1. Capture a golem with a harpoon and get it stuck somewhere where you want to grind. Have some earthwalls prepared where you wanted to entomb that little guy. Maybe somewhere flat where you want to grow trees for woodarrows too.
Step 2. Capture some greydwarf shamans with a harpoon and drag them into the golempit.
Step 3. Build a nice house around them where you have a campfire and workbench
Step 4. Build the mighty crude bow.
Step 5. Open the floor and shoot arrows down on the golem.

You can leftclick and immediatly release the arrows. They drop on the head of the golem and grant you your wish. Why the shamans you might ask? They are friendly to the golem and heal the little guy. Infinite torture. The shooting can be automated with a macro if you are lazy.

And like some other people mentioned. Killing greydwarfs, draugers or skeletons near spawners is an option too.

[MrΩ]

Karma.

That streamer got an insane bug with a "popping" wraith right under his boat in the middle of the day: he died. Ofc he was playing immersive (not +), he lost all his stats and stuff. (Just a few days ago, got a "popping" greydwarf right on me while I was melee-ing a troll, I died ofc).

Yep, there are many issues with spawns in valheim.

[Frozztastic]

What I take away from this thread: I need to level my Bow skill a lot more.

[MrΩ]

Originally posted by Frozztastic:

What I take away from this thread: I need to level my Bow skill a lot more.

bow skill 90 is impressive, but in immersive, one death, and bow skill level goes back to 0... so better have _very_ efficient wayS to level it up when you will really need it.