How this compare to current offering? ex. Conan Exiles, ARK, Rust?

[Bierno]

This game is massive population right now and much bigger than any other game of the same type but been watching bunch of reviews and can't really figure out the appeal of this game that make it better than what we already have.

I not a big fan of this type of game but a bunch of my friends trying to convince me to buy it and I feel like I wasted money on these type of games but the number just keep getting bigger for this game so I must be missing details that make this game so great

So if those that play other building/survival game and point out the unique/pros that stands out over the other games I have played would be great to understand

I have played : No Man Sky, Conan Exile, Rust, ARK, DayZ, Minecraft, 7 Days to Die
The one that play the most is Minecraft and Rust

EDIT: Depends the mood, sometime I am very into PVP or sometime I just wanna PVE and build. I would just pick the type of server for that

[FadeXF]

If you have done your research and don't understand the appeal: probably not the game for you.

For me: I own every one of those games you listed and of all of them I enjoyed 7 Days the most... Rust/Ark/Conan/NMS were all completely average, even mostly "meh" for me.

I can't explain why I enjoy this game this must right now however it seems to get all the the systems, exploration, crafting... just holistically: it does a really good job (8 out of 10).

If you have watched Youtubes, Twitch... you have extensively done your research and the game doesn't appeal to you? I wouldn't buy it.

You don't need our opinions on this. This is for you to make.

[Spicy_Pickle]

Put it this way, all of those games have a gimmick that they do particularly well but they tend to be lackluster in the core and foundation of the game. Valheim doesn't chase a gimmick, it just aims to be a fun game with a solid foundation.

As someone who thinks all of those games are meh and essentially boredom time wasters, def try Valheim it idk what but it does everything so much better.

[Bierno]

Originally posted by FadeXF:

If you have done your research and don't understand the appeal: probably not the game for you.

For me: I own every one of those games you listed and of all of them I enjoyed 7 Days the most... Rust/Ark/Conan/NMS were all completely average, even mostly "meh" for me.

I can't explain why I enjoy this game this must right now however it seems to get all the the systems, exploration, crafting... just holistically: it does a really good job (8 out of 10).

If you have watched Youtubes, Twitch... you have extensively done your research and the game doesn't appeal to you? I wouldn't buy it.

You don't need our opinions on this. This is for you to make.

Yes hence why I haven't bought it but popularity growth is making an appeal to me and not sure if there stuff I didn't notice. Is it great because it is simple like minecraft? etc
I don't mind reading what people have to write but like to see comparison so I can understand more and maybe someone will point out something that maybe make me sold on trying it out. Will check out roadmap soon

[SoULLeSs]

I got both Conan and Ark for years now, but in a bit more of a week I managed to have more hours in this game then in both of them, I don't know, there's simply something enjoyable out on playing this game, can't really explain, the game is quite immersive and simple but enjoyable at same time, and I have barely even scratched the game since I'm only in the second biome, I even have fun in grinding ore and I get easily bored of games

[Plague]

I have and play them all, Ark, atlas, conan, 7D, even the space ones. Up to date, for me Conan took the crown, but this game def sunk its hook into me. At first I was not interested due to looking like some PS2 game, but what it lacks in cosmetics, it more than makes up for in gaming depth. I killed myself because I didnt vent the fire in my cabin, and enjoyed it because it added to the game lol.

[DredSilent]

Originally posted by HBTarvald:

Put it this way, all of those games have a gimmick that they do particularly well but they tend to be lackluster in the core and foundation of the game. Valheim doesn't chase a gimmick, it just aims to be a fun game with a solid foundation.

As someone who thinks all of those games are meh and essentially boredom time wasters, def try Valheim it idk what but it does everything so much better.

Tarvald, you are like the Valheim super cheerleader? How are any of these systems fleshed out?
- Taming? Pointless.
- Cultivating? Pointless.
- The skill system in general? Rather pointless beyond getting 20-30 points, no benefit really of having 30+ that is noticeable, doesn't unlock special attacks or benefits that are worth the time investment to keep it 50+.
- The combat system is sluggish and slow and cost too much stamina(two handed weapons), combat animations are static and have no vertical motion.
- Enemy AI and events are lackluster at best and can be easily cheesed except for the deathsquito (only because he moves super fast).
- Boss fights beyond the 2nd boss are extremely unsatisfying and easy.
- The merchant is a one and done type of thing
- The wish bone is pointless beyond getting silver.

[Kaziklu78]

It depends on why you want to play and what your expectations are.

I played Conan Exiles from EA and finally gave up on it in June. Have 1000 hours in that game 900 hours in single player because servers were filled with people that just wanted to make you have a bad time.

This game is very Conan to me. You have a similar progression and similar threat level but with much much more forgiving mechanics. It is way smoother than Conan was when it went into EA.

It is so popular to me because it is $20USD and isn't a PvP gankfest. It is more about the exploration and the PvE than anything. Building is fairly good. Haven't seen any major bugs. Everything is fairly obvious or takes only a little time to figure out.

Some areas of the game are challenging and there is a threat to you if you play sloppy. It is super forgiving though. Repair doesn't cost resources. Food is the only real thing you need to eat... even then I'm not sure you'd die. It is more about buffs. The world's mechanics work really well.

It is RNG. There is little resource respawn. unlike Conan you don't sit on a forest of trees and a few iron nodes and just mine them over and over again as they respawn. This you find your nodes and when they are gone they are gone and you have to find new ones.

Overall I have 1000 hours of Conan where I did a lot of building. Here I suspect I'll end up some where near that number.

[Jolly]

I don't PvP - and you don't say whether you do or not.

This game can be played solo, without having to dink with a server or any other mess. It's inexpensive. it's fun. I'm sure it'd be fun co-op (something I can't much of lately).

I can't explain why I enjoy this game this must right now however it seems to get all the the systems, exploration, crafting... just holistically: it does a really good job (8 out of 10).

This. I can't explain it either - it's fun - has challenges but no rush. It's familiar but different enough. I get immediately turned off by so many of these types of games lately but this one just feels good.

[Jolly]

Common theme many state is "fun" - there is some grind, there's some brutality, but overall the game is just fun to play.

[FadeXF]

Originally posted by SKuD:

Originally posted by HBTarvald:

Put it this way, all of those games have a gimmick that they do particularly well but they tend to be lackluster in the core and foundation of the game. Valheim doesn't chase a gimmick, it just aims to be a fun game with a solid foundation.

As someone who thinks all of those games are meh and essentially boredom time wasters, def try Valheim it idk what but it does everything so much better.

Tarvald, you are like the Valheim super cheerleader? How are any of these systems fleshed out? Taming? Pointless. Cultivating? Pointless. The skill system in general? Rather pointless beyond getting 20-30 points, no benefit really of having 30+ that is noticeable, doesn't unlock special attacks or benefits that are worth the time investment to keep it 50+. The combat system is sluggish and slow, animations are static and have not vertical motion. Enemy AI and events are lackluster at best and can be easily cheesed except for the deathsquito (only because he moves super fast).

As much as you are Valheim's super nemesis. Every thread you are in saying how bad the game is.

Cultivating is pointless??? So how are you making your Carrot Soup, Fish Wraps, Bread, Turnip Stew?? How are you able to down anything past Boss 3?? Weird.

Taming pointless? Not sure... while when I played around with the boars it was really lake in my playthrough: I did kill off 10 of them "free" and collected meat and leather... which if I had done that in the first 4 hours of my game would have been significant.

Combat system: it needs some work but it's not terribad. I like how when you attack you FEEL when you hit something. (I can't explain it... it's very satisfying though) - same with Bow attacking... I really hate attacking up or downhill though: that needs to be worked on.

The enemy AI needs some work - but again: not terribad. I have died to mobs so it's not like they don't do their jobs.

[SoULLeSs]

Originally posted by Jolly:

I don't PvP - and you don't say whether you do or not.

This game can be played solo, without having to dink with a server or any other mess. It's inexpensive. it's fun. I'm sure it'd be fun co-op (something I can't much of lately).

I can't explain why I enjoy this game this must right now however it seems to get all the the systems, exploration, crafting... just holistically: it does a really good job (8 out of 10).

This. I can't explain it either - it's fun - has challenges but no rush. It's familiar but different enough. I get immediately turned off by so many of these types of games lately but this one just feels good.

Agreed, I'm not even much into survival game but this game...

[Cougarific]

Originally posted by FadeXF:

I can't explain why I enjoy this game this much right now

^This is the answer you're going to get from most players.

Taken individually most of the game systems are just "good". But they all come together in a way that makes the game itself "great". It won't come across in screenshots or even gameplay videos but there's something really immersive about the game as a whole.

[DredSilent]

Originally posted by FadeXF:

Originally posted by SKuD:

Tarvald, you are like the Valheim super cheerleader? How are any of these systems fleshed out? Taming? Pointless. Cultivating? Pointless. The skill system in general? Rather pointless beyond getting 20-30 points, no benefit really of having 30+ that is noticeable, doesn't unlock special attacks or benefits that are worth the time investment to keep it 50+. The combat system is sluggish and slow, animations are static and have not vertical motion. Enemy AI and events are lackluster at best and can be easily cheesed except for the deathsquito (only because he moves super fast).

As much as you are Valheim's super nemesis. Every thread you are in saying how bad the game is.

Cultivating is pointless??? So how are you making your Carrot Soup, Fish Wraps, Bread, Turnip Stew?? How are you able to down anything past Boss 3?? Weird.

You don't need more than 100 health in this game to do anything. Sausage, fish, neck, cooked meat, royal jam, its all you need. Anything over that is just overkill. The cultivating system (aka farming) is so lame, you plant some stuff, it grows, you turn it to seed plants it grows, you now have 1000s of carrots and turnips, barley and flax. You never need to farm again. Where as getting ore/metal in this game is tediously long.

It takes you days (real days) to get enough metal to upgrade your gear and weapons, but in a night or two(Game Days), you can have enough plants to last you through 2021's content updates.

[Delta-9]

For me, it feels like a Viking RPG, with survival aspects. And, you can build a awesome long house? Sing me up!
For The All Father!

[FadeXF]

Originally posted by SKuD:

Originally posted by FadeXF:

As much as you are Valheim's super nemesis. Every thread you are in saying how bad the game is.

Cultivating is pointless??? So how are you making your Carrot Soup, Fish Wraps, Bread, Turnip Stew?? How are you able to down anything past Boss 3?? Weird.

You don't need more than 100 health in this game to do anything. Sausage, fish, neck, cooked meat, royal jam, its all you need. Anything over that is just overkill.

Boss 4 would like word with you who hits over 100 life