i stoped playing this game

[Lugulbanda]

not that is bad, or i dont like it, just because the devs sayes here big update and caves u find in areas were ur not have been, and i went out to search for that stuff for days weeks searching it and now i finaly hear from the devs the havent even put it online,

that made me so mad, sorry but, could u please stop, making comercials instead work on the game, its not that the game is bad or bugged i can live with slow development by time as the game is early access i can say iam happy to have the option to play it from the early stages, but steady promissing and not delivering in game, is something, that ruins all gameplay fun, i wasted so much time, because i was thinking this update was online and it wasnt,

i sugest u make a roadmap were ur goal is and what u want to accive by time, and were u staying, thats much more helpfull then this stupid comercial promises wich are not fullfilled for months... i know exactly one game wich Devs behaved exactly that way and in the end the stoped the game after luring alot money from the people for collectors overpriced packets, wich were never fullfilled even as the game was out,, thats a very small line to follow promise what u can do and not promise what u cant, here i saw promises of the mistlands, and after the annuncement nothing was delivered, only a small deco stuff items..

dont get me wrong i love the game, i like the style and nothing triggers me more exploring the unknown, but getting promises and not delivering is something, that can ruin the mood my friends stopped the game long ago, way longer then the mistland promise, just because there was nothing new, added to the game, and the tiny updates wasnt enough, to lure them back...

just overthink how u announce promises, and what u deliver,
steam forum is full of people mad cuz exactly over that thing ,
but even if it sounds harsch in many coments,
try to unterstand, u can only hate what u deeply love, if the people wouldnt love the game, they wouldnt even post in its forum anymore.
people are only mad cuz things were promised and not deliverd, and now using the same promice for an steamaward is like pulling oil on a burning fire, it just ignited the Mood of the people waited for so long and got nothing...

the thing i realy realy love of this game is how easy u can go from ur server to annother bring stuff and expirance with u, and travel forward, thats what most other big games like Ark, Conan exiles and others lack... not wasting ur time...

its the deep love of the people if they get emotional, u dont get emotional over somthing u dont like, its a cry for help from the comunity, not a stick to smack on a head, the only thing i absolutly disslike is the censorship of the forums, by forceclosing them and preventing an open disscusion, that only puts way more oil on the fire of the people wich are ignited allready...

[Suzaku]

The update is on the beta branch. Read the update notes about how to access it.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/892970/view/3383920059442053897?l=english

[Brew]

Originally posted by Lugulbanda:

not that is bad, or i dont like it, just because the devs sayes here big update and caves u find in areas were ur not have been, and i went out to search for that stuff for days weeks searching it and now i finaly hear from the devs the havent even put it online,

You have been misinformed. Caves are there, in the mountains, in the released version. I have found them on my map, while exploring new mountain areas.

[Lugulbanda]

Originally posted by Brew:

Originally posted by Lugulbanda:

not that is bad, or i dont like it, just because the devs sayes here big update and caves u find in areas were ur not have been, and i went out to search for that stuff for days weeks searching it and now i finaly hear from the devs the havent even put it online,

You have been misinformed. Caves are there, in the mountains, in the released version. I have found them on my map, while exploring new mountain areas.

trust me i circled around my build for weeks and found not a single cave wich was promised, to appear in not explored regions, and i got tired, cuz it now takes hours to walk to that places, because they are so far and i sunk so many ships and stuff otw traveling to them..

and after weeks not finding any of those caves, i was so frustrated that i gave up the game...

in the end i got back to other games, with a bad feeling to this game developmen in the backpack.

[Brew]

The maps are randomly generated, so there is an element of luck to it. Maybe they are more rare in your seed?

You could try putting your seed into the map generator[valheim-map.world] and click "Show Frost Caves", to see where they are, if you want to verify locations. The generator would assume a completely unexplored map though, so not all locations you see there would necessarily have a cave, if that area had been explored before caves were released.

[Suzaku]

I would actually love to get OP's seed info and see the map for myself.

[Lugulbanda]

Originally posted by Brew:

The maps are randomly generated, so there is an element of luck to it. Maybe they are more rare in your seed?

You could try putting your seed into the map generator[valheim-map.world] and click "Show Frost Caves", to see where they are, if you want to verify locations. The generator would assume a completely unexplored map though, so not all locations you see there would necessarily have a cave, if that area had been explored before caves were released.

Well yes there is a way just take all ur stuff, and move to annother server, then crush the old and start a new map and come back with all that stuff, wich means u have to explore eveyting anew, i noticed on the server of my friends silver was plenty everywere, while on mine u had to travel very far to just get a little silver...

maybe ur right the seed of my game is to old and not growing the roots to the new stuff, like it should on a fresh start..

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Lugulbanda:

Originally posted by Brew:

You have been misinformed. Caves are there, in the mountains, in the released version. I have found them on my map, while exploring new mountain areas.

trust me i circled around my build for weeks and found not a single cave wich was promised, to appear in not explored regions, and i got tired, cuz it now takes hours to walk to that places, because they are so far and i sunk so many ships and stuff otw traveling to them..

and after weeks not finding any of those caves, i was so frustrated that i gave up the game...

in the end i got back to other games, with a bad feeling to this game developmen in the backpack.

Various things to unpack from that:

1. If you experienced a lack of snow biome cave discovery and it was on a -NEW- map, that would depend on the randomness of the seed. However, there are plenty of tools with which to help you in your exploration or to save you time if you'd chosen to use them.

Perfect example of this is this website: https://valheim-map.world/

It can actually show you where caves should spawn on a seed. However...

2. If your map was one you were previously playing on before the mountain cave update was implemented, there is a likelihood that caves may have not necessarily spawned due to the extent of your exploration. This was talked about over and over again at the time of that update. You should've thus been aware of it then.



All in all this seems to be more of a user end issue than anything due to a lack of due diligence on your part to stay aware of the progressive development of an Early Access game. You are not yet entitled to experiencing the fully completed game and you agreed to that when you purchased(as that's what it means to decide to play an early access game... further supporting the lack of due diligence on your part.

So if rolling with and adapting to changes as they come is something you're unwilling to do then yes, as you imparted, moving on to other games has more merit for you.

I'm not invalidating your passion for the game that you've exhibited across multiple posts mind you, I'm just pointing out the seeming dissonance and offering other considerations for you to mull over.

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

Think a couple questions need to be answered.

Did you opt into the beta test?
Did you go to a server with beta enabled?
Is it your old map?
Is it a new map?

If its either of the last two, which is without opting into the beta test, you would not see any of the new features.

The beta test is there to help root out bugs and game balance issue's before release to everyone else. Which has become the norm for games in EA and in AAA game companies now.

Hope that helps you.

[Faustus]

Originally posted by Lugulbanda:

...and i got tired, cuz it now takes hours to walk to that places, because they are so far and i sunk so many ships and stuff otw traveling to them.

Why not use portals to make exploration more accessible and less punishing if you do die and need to get back to that point?

On caves, I've found them but they aren't in every mountain; as others have suggested, put your seed into the mapper to see where they are in your world so you at least know which way to go to find them.

[bacon]

-if you already explored a mountain, caves will not spawn.

-caves do not spawn on every mountain. the larger the mountain, the better. there are many areas in the game with only a little bit of snow that count as mountains, but they arent big enough to support generation of special biome-specific structures.

-caves that spawn are fairly hard to find, depending on your angle of exploration. i have definitely stumbled upon caves after i was sure i had already explored an area and found nothing. the difficulty of finding them is part of the challenge.

[John]

Originally posted by Lugulbanda:

Originally posted by Brew:

You have been misinformed. Caves are there, in the mountains, in the released version. I have found them on my map, while exploring new mountain areas.

trust me i circled around my build for weeks and found not a single cave wich was promised, to appear in not explored regions, and i got tired, cuz it now takes hours to walk to that places, because they are so far and i sunk so many ships and stuff otw traveling to them..

and after weeks not finding any of those caves, i was so frustrated that i gave up the game...

in the end i got back to other games, with a bad feeling to this game developmen in the backpack.

Well, if everyone else can find them, seems you either have bad luck, exploring already explored area's, or are only exploring stuff you got too close to. They are in the game in old world, i know they are, i found them. Or maybe you are just overlooking them, use an online map viewer to be certain.

[skOsH♥]

I am still having fun doing my first playthrough, slowly burning my way through the game, because I want to have a solid, unadulterated complete game playthrough, where I'll probably try doing permadeath speedrun.

Of course, playing the game for a super long time for such a slow duration will tell me what works, what doesn't, etc.

Perfect type of game for me to speedrun. I'd speedrun minecraft, but the "game" you need to beat in that game is so dumb that I don't even bother.

[smokauweeds]

If you have an already explored map. you can use this mod to reset biomes.

https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/1485

I used it when the caves came out, and just again for mistlands.

you can select a specific biome type, meadows, swamp, mountains, whatever. it respawns that zone. and leaves your structures in place. I did have it wipe out a path I chiseled down the side of a mountain, but it left the base alone.

[iamfriendly2]

maby you just read the patch notes next time is mistlands test server

[Driverben]

Early on I had to move to a new map because my original seed didn't have enough cores to make even one smelting station early on. Moved to a new seed, and found more than enough caves with cores in them. Could have just some really bad RNG like I did.