Making a Road down a Hill

[pstuder12321]

SO im gonna try to attach a screenshot. I REALLY hope come hearth and home. the devs fix the Hoe tool (it sucks.) and make making a road SO much simpler. What started as a very simple road down the hill has turned into the hoe terraforming the hillside into a cliff s***show and the road having should of been a simple clean smooth road turned into a terraformed nightmare. OMG this is insane. if the devs dont fix this Im probably gonna demand my money back its such a stupid little thing. (WHY DOES MAKING A PRETTY ROAD EVEN TERRAFORM THE LAND?!?!??! IF I WANTED TO TERRA FORM IT I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THEN PUT THE ROAD ON!!!!!!!!!) SOOO Frustrating.

[Blitz4]

install valheim plus. it'll allow teleporting ore. best thing we got until they finish the carts.

[Ryzilynt]

When terraforming a road up or down a hill its best to stand off the side of the road and put the circle between the high and low spots. Level ground works well when you remember that the hoe levels to the ground at your feet , nothing else.

[Megahurts]

There's a technique to it. You can figure it out or carry on raging. Whichever you think is most beneficial.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Megahurts:

There's a technique to it. You can figure it out or carry on raging. Whichever you think is most beneficial.

or option 3, install a mod to get around it

[Martin]

Originally posted by pstuder12321:

SO im gonna try to attach a screenshot. I REALLY hope come hearth and home. the devs fix the Hoe tool (it sucks.) and make making a road SO much simpler. What started as a very simple road down the hill has turned into the hoe terraforming the hillside into a cliff s***show and the road having should of been a simple clean smooth road turned into a terraformed nightmare. OMG this is insane. if the devs dont fix this Im probably gonna demand my money back its such a stupid little thing. (WHY DOES MAKING A PRETTY ROAD EVEN TERRAFORM THE LAND?!?!??! IF I WANTED TO TERRA FORM IT I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THEN PUT THE ROAD ON!!!!!!!!!) SOOO Frustrating.

Try doing it in the opposite direction, i've had more luck making roads uphill.. going down is a nightmare. Also you can still pickaxe a road uphill, there's a very very slight rise to it, but it's works.

Also make sure you're using Pathen not any other mode. Flatten sparingly.

[Gladi8er65]

Originally posted by pstuder12321:

SO im gonna try to attach a screenshot. I REALLY hope come hearth and home. the devs fix the Hoe tool (it sucks.) and make making a road SO much simpler. What started as a very simple road down the hill has turned into the hoe terraforming the hillside into a cliff s***show and the road having should of been a simple clean smooth road turned into a terraformed nightmare. OMG this is insane. if the devs dont fix this Im probably gonna demand my money back its such a stupid little thing. (WHY DOES MAKING A PRETTY ROAD EVEN TERRAFORM THE LAND?!?!??! IF I WANTED TO TERRA FORM IT I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THEN PUT THE ROAD ON!!!!!!!!!) SOOO Frustrating.

Learn how to use the hoe before you come in here and rage.

When you have the "flatten" setting activated(or pathen), the hoe will raise/lower the ground to match the height of the spot you are standing on... That easy.

Of COURSE if you are standing uphill and aiming the tool downhill, its going to raise the land a lot and make cliffs... if you stand downhill pointing uphill, its going to "lower" too much. The best way to get a smooth-ish path down (or up) any slope is to stand at the height you want the next click to be and click at your feet or directly in front of you, then move again and repeat. Learn the mechanics.... it's NOT the tool, It's YOU.

[Frozztastic]

Build it like real life and zig-zag. I don't have any issues building roads/paths up mountains, and I'm a dummy.

[pstuder12321]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by Megahurts:

There's a technique to it. You can figure it out or carry on raging. Whichever you think is most beneficial.

or option 3, install a mod to get around it

Lol love the push for mods, dont worry I have many xD Including that one, thats not the issue. I build major building and Im a bit ocd about the roads being neat.

Originally posted by Megahurts:

There's a technique to it. You can figure it out or carry on raging. Whichever you think is most beneficial.

Lol All I gotta say to you.

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

When terraforming a road up or down a hill its best to stand off the side of the road and put the circle between the high and low spots. Level ground works well when you remember that the hoe levels to the ground at your feet , nothing else.

Yeah I place it behind high and low but it really seems hit or miss either way. It either forms a cliff on the higher spot or works correctly. but getting it to work correctly 100% of the time doesnt seem to be a thing. I really wish I knew how to put a screen shot, you'd get exactly what im talking about. Its so wacky putting them on steam xD

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by pstuder12321:

SO im gonna try to attach a screenshot. I REALLY hope come hearth and home. the devs fix the Hoe tool (it sucks.) and make making a road SO much simpler. What started as a very simple road down the hill has turned into the hoe terraforming the hillside into a cliff s***show and the road having should of been a simple clean smooth road turned into a terraformed nightmare. OMG this is insane. if the devs dont fix this Im probably gonna demand my money back its such a stupid little thing. (WHY DOES MAKING A PRETTY ROAD EVEN TERRAFORM THE LAND?!?!??! IF I WANTED TO TERRA FORM IT I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THEN PUT THE ROAD ON!!!!!!!!!) SOOO Frustrating.

Try doing it in the opposite direction, i've had more luck making roads uphill.. going down is a nightmare. Also you can still pickaxe a road uphill, there's a very very slight rise to it, but it's works.

Also make sure you're using Pathen not any other mode. Flatten sparingly.

Doing it up hill in the mountains just makes cliffs and makes it ten times worst most the time. I've tried it that way a couple times and usually backfires fast. On smaller hills like in the meadows it works fine but not for carving up a mountain.

Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

Originally posted by pstuder12321:

SO im gonna try to attach a screenshot. I REALLY hope come hearth and home. the devs fix the Hoe tool (it sucks.) and make making a road SO much simpler. What started as a very simple road down the hill has turned into the hoe terraforming the hillside into a cliff s***show and the road having should of been a simple clean smooth road turned into a terraformed nightmare. OMG this is insane. if the devs dont fix this Im probably gonna demand my money back its such a stupid little thing. (WHY DOES MAKING A PRETTY ROAD EVEN TERRAFORM THE LAND?!?!??! IF I WANTED TO TERRA FORM IT I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THEN PUT THE ROAD ON!!!!!!!!!) SOOO Frustrating.

Learn how to use the hoe before you come in here and rage.

ROFL Get on my level before you try putting me down dude. Im Carving a road up a mountain side dude. Not over a tiny hill in the meadows. Im connecting two major building in the mountains. Dont try and 'your a noob' me dude. I promise my builds make yours look like they were done by a kid. You seemed to miss one of my major annoyances, is that when making a stone road it TERRAFORMS the terrain. In the mountains that tiny little aspect is a NIGHTMARE. Flattening the ground first doesnt do anything to help. Just changes what the ending looks like. Also its not exactly a hidden fact that the hoe sucks in this game. even the devs think it sucks and has already tried fixing it twice, third time the charm hopefully.

Originally posted by Frozztastic:

Build it like real life and zig-zag. I don't have any issues building roads/paths up mountains, and I'm a dummy.

Normally I'd say yeah, easy solution. But as Ive stated above. Building the road through a mountain. Zigzagging isnt an option. you have MAYBE one or two routes you can go down depending on the mountain. In my case, I have one path thats it.

[Frozztastic]

I'm afraid I have no solutions, then. :(

Good luck with the construction.

...maybe build actual stairs and such connected to platforms that jut out? I don't know.

[h3idi9000]

Originally posted by Frozztastic:

Build it like real life and zig-zag. I don't have any issues building roads/paths up mountains, and I'm a dummy.

^^^^^^

Mountains and some hills are simply too steep for a straight road.

[FaPaThY]

For something like mountains or steep hills, don't bother with roads and just use wood/stone platforms+stairs instead. If you're trying to make a path for carts to go up, then don't, because it's better to just break the cart and carry the mats up manually. But if you really have to pull the cart up, like if your base is up there, you can use 26º roofs as ramps that should be easier to pull a cart up.

Also, holding shift while flattening with the hoe centers it at the ground level of where you're pointing at, instead of where you're standing. It's the right way to do what some people above have suggested about standing where you want to level for smoother slopes.

[Estyn]

As others have said, once slopes hit a certain degree of steepness, you're best off to start using the pickaxe, and/or setting stone stairs. The hoe can only do so much when it comes to steeper slopes.

I just finished a somewhat long road through a section of mountain. I ending up simply pickaxing to create a level section through one particularly steep part between two approximately-similar level places. Another very steep part I cut into the landscape with the hoe enough to work in 5 sets of stone stairs. The rest of the slopes I managed to use the hoe well enough to get a reasonable sloped road.

[Cockroach]

pick the ground, raise the ground. Repeat and level.
Dont bother with roads. Waste of life.

[Cougarific]

Originally posted by FaPaThY:

holding shift while flattening with the hoe centers it at the ground level of where you're pointing at, instead of where you're standing. .

Just surprised that only one person has mentioned this - makes me suspect that a significant number of players aren't even aware of it.

Shift-click makes a ramp from the level you're on to the level you're aiming at. Perfect for making paths (in fact it is simply a keyboard shortcut to the Paths setting on the hoe).

[Cake for Mumm-Ra]

Easy smooth path up a hill:

• Work your way from the bottom to the top
  
• Use the hoe at a mid-point between two different heights
  
• Use-shift click to position the hoe tool
  
• Smoothing areas take patience; clicking madly will produce unwanted results that may prove difficult to correct.
  
• For very steep hills, consider making switchbacks instead of a straight line up a mountain