The Ending (spoilers)

[Master Zone]

So let me get this right... Elizabeth drowned and killed DeWitt, because, she wanted her little finger back, and for that stuff to never happen. Even though they got away happily ever after, Elizabeth just had to kill Dewitt because Elizabeth wanted her cake and to eat it as well.. Dafuk?

Even though your DeWitt is not the same DeWitt that became the Prophet, she had to be petty and kill you anyway. She could not live with what life dealt her, she had to have more and take revenge in such a petty, petty way.

[The Specialist]

Nope, good sir. Elizabeth killed DeWitt to end the cycle of Comstocks existing in all their universes. However, since there are alternative universes, she could have broken down and hugged her father in one universe.

[Ivlichnov]

If the Elizabeth’s drown pre-baptism Booker, then they effectively drown every resulting version of Booker and Comstock, who result from either taking the baptism (Comstock) or running away from the baptism (Booker in Infinite).

When Elizabeth gained the ability to see all the doors, she saw just how many versions of Elizabeth were brought up to be Comstock’s heir in millions of Universes.

This is why (I think) the Elizabeth’s did what they did.

Check out this summing up of the games ending.

*Spoilers*

BIOSHOCK INFINITE: ENDING -EASTER EGG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOQ2mSpgqc0

[Blewris]

İlk olarak Master Zone tarafından gönderildi:

So let me get this right... Elizabeth drowned and killed DeWitt, because, she wanted her little finger back, and for that stuff to never happen. Even though they got away happily ever after, Elizabeth just had to kill Dewitt because Elizabeth wanted her cake and to eat it as well.. Dafuk? :trazz:

Even though your DeWitt is not the same DeWitt that became the Prophet, she had to be petty and kill you anyway. She could not live with what life dealt her, she had to have more and take revenge in such a petty, petty way.

Unbelievably wrong. Did you mute the last chapter? Should probably play it again. And turn on subtitles just in case.

[Desert_Fox]

The ending becomes a lot easier to understand if you pay more close attention to the dialogue and audio recordings.

This is my understanding, simplified down, please feel free to fill in what I forget:

As explained by Elizabeth and the Luteces, the entirety of all the alternate universes (All the 'doors') have points in time where certain events always happen no matter what, and points in time where one or more event could happen. Constants and variables. There's always a man, there's always a lighthouse, there's always a city.

One of the 'variable' events is the baptism of Booker DeWitt after the Battle of Wounded Knee. If he accepts the baptism, he changes his name and "becomes" Zachary Comstock. If he refuses the baptism, he stays the Booker DeWitt that he was before. He has a daughter (Anna) and eventually has to give her away as a trade to rid himself of debt.

Elizabeth (Who, mind you, is Anna) knows that there is a never ending circle of Comstocks and DeWitts fighting over her, and she knows that she always ends up taken from her father...by her father. (This is where the lyrics "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" come from.) She also knows that Booker always fails to escape the city with her because of Songbird.

She decides that the only way to break the cycle is to destroy one of the variable events. The Baptism. By drowning Booker in the river, the variable is removed and is replaced with a constant. Rather than having Booker either stay DeWitt or become Comstock, Booker always dies. And thus, the circle is broken.

They never did get away happily ever after.

[Master Zone]

İlk olarak ZulwayGodOfMercy tarafından gönderildi:

The ending becomes a lot easier to understand if you pay more close attention to the dialogue and audio recordings.

This is my understanding, simplified down, please feel free to fill in what I forget:

As explained by Elizabeth and the Luteces, the entirety of all the alternate universes (All the 'doors') have points in time where certain events always happen no matter what, and points in time where one or more event could happen. Constants and variables. There's always a man, there's always a lighthouse, there's always a city.

One of the 'variable' events is the baptism of Booker DeWitt after the Battle of Wounded Knee. If he accepts the baptism, he changes his name and "becomes" Zachary Comstock. If he refuses the baptism, he stays the Booker DeWitt that he was before. He has a daughter (Anna) and eventually has to give her away as a trade to rid himself of debt.

Elizabeth (Who, mind you, is Anna) knows that there is a never ending circle of Comstocks and DeWitts fighting over her, and she knows that she always ends up taken from her father...by her father. (This is where the lyrics "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" come from.) She also knows that Booker always fails to escape the city with her because of Songbird.

She decides that the only way to break the cycle is to destroy one of the variable events. The Baptism. By drowning Booker in the river, the variable is removed and is replaced with a constant. Rather than having Booker either stay DeWitt or become Comstock, Booker always dies. And thus, the circle is broken.

They never did get away happily ever after.

I understood all that though... And songbird was not a danger to them because it died under the sea.


From what I got from it, Elizabeth and DeWitt were safe, but Elizabeth had to have her cake and eat it too, she had to save the other Elizabeth's. Like DeWitt said, they were safe, the danger was over, they could have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on with their lives, they could have gone to Paris. But NO she had to have her cake and eat it too. She could not leave the other Elizabeth's to their own lives and enjoy her own freedom, she had to save them all and at the same time kill all the innocent DeWitt's as well as all the Comstock's (have her cake and eat it too).

I am sorry for over using the saying "have youe cake and eat it too", but fit what she did so strongly.

[Master Zone]

İlk olarak Ivlichnov tarafından gönderildi:

If the Elizabeth’s drown pre-baptism Booker, then they effectively drown every resulting version of Booker and Comstock, who result from either taking the baptism (Comstock) or running away from the baptism (Booker in Infinite).

When Elizabeth gained the ability to see all the doors, she saw just how many versions of Elizabeth were brought up to be Comstock’s heir in millions of Universes.

This is why (I think) the Elizabeth’s did what they did.

Check out this summing up of the games ending.

*Spoilers*

BIOSHOCK INFINITE: ENDING -EASTER EGG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOQ2mSpgqc0

To tell the truth, that scene at the start of the video just shows that Elizabeth is the one who should have been killed.

[Solarmech]

When the syphon was destroyed and she could see behind all the doors, Elizabeth realized killing one Comstock would not stop him. There where millions and millions of others. And that these other Comstocks would put their plans in motion to destroy the world (We see see this in Comstock House). Not only will Columbia destroy humanity in their own reality, they will invade OTHER realites and do the same thing! Basically they will wipe out humanity in *every reality*.

And let's make it clear, Elizabeth did NOT want to kill Booker. Booker is the only thing she had in her entire life and without him she really does not want to live very much. She probably didn't even expect to exist after the Last Baptism (She was killing herself along with Booker). But allowing Comstock to surive dooms all of humanity. What could she and Booker do? It was his choice to go through with it as well.

The ONLY way to stop every Comstock was to make sure he was never born. So Elizabeth (only with a number of alternates of herself) Set up the Last Baptism that combined all the Booker alternates that would become Comstock into one Booker. "Our" Booker from the game with his personality domininate. By killing him, they eliminated any possibility of Comstock being born. This also created a paradox. If there is no Comstock, there is no Columbia, so how could our Booker go there to find Elizabeth? And if there is no Comstock how can he take Anna from Booker and she become Elizabeth?

As you can see the paradox plays havok with things. The Booker and Elizabeth from the game are wiped from reality just as Comstock was. But not totaly. As seen after the credits, Booker is back in 1893 on the day that Comstock WOULD have show up to take Anna. And he seems to remember something because of how scared he was Anna was not in her crib. It was left up to the players to determine if Anna (formerly Elizabeth) is in the crib or not. (Note, Burial at Sea does NOT effect if Anna is in the crib or not). So there can be a happy ending, all you do is have to chose it. sm

[ZeroKelvin]

SPOILERS! THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!

Lizzie got sick of Booker making weird faces at her all the time, so she dunked him with a few of her quantum buddies.

The Luteces were just a couple of British people that the Doctor dumped into a wormhole. They're total nerds, and the hair thing is just coincidence.

Comstock is what happened to Brigham Young.

Fink is a schizophrenic nut job - Andrew Ryan owns the factory district, and just sank it on a whim one day while stoned.

Also, Snape kills Trinity with Rosebud.

[Solarmech]

But in the end though what did Elizabeth do? She tried to fix what she had broken and give Sally and the other Little Sisters a chance. So that says which side she was truely on. But even without what she did in Rapture, Elizabeth was not long for the world. She had no one at all in her life. She thinks her powers make her a freak, she is suffering from PTSD, has the memories of ALL the other Elizabeth's in her head and she did not have a real will to live. Sadly the only real chance Elizbeth had to have a life was by dying and (hopefully) becoming Anna again. sm

[Master Zone]

İlk olarak Solarmech tarafından gönderildi:

Not only will Columbia destroy humanity in their own reality, they will invade OTHER realites and do the same thing! Basically they will wipe out humanity in *every reality*.

OHHHH.... Now it all makes sense! I did not know they would invade all the other realites and destroy them as well! Lol. Thanks for this information. Seriously.

[Jazz the Goose]

ELizabeth also killed herself with that as well as the others. Comstock and Columbia never existed, just the real Booker with his daughter (Elizabeth) becasue thanks to Bookers death the Booker that became Comstock in the other dimension never existed.

[Fenris]

i love bioshock