Medieval 2 Remastered

[FriedAss (Squid/Ward)]

Is there any news of a Medieval 2 Remastered yet? It would be a guaranteed hit.

[Andy]

What would you expect to improve in the remaster?
Rome 1 suffered with performance issue on new systems in a way ME2 doesn't.
The improvements to Rome remaster were nicer looking units, and merchants with a bit of balancing and improved modding support.
Although they said they worked on AI and unit pathing. The effects are negligible in game.
Given how medievel 2 doesn't have the same issues, given the fact it would release with no mods available, and yet there's a vast number of mods for the base game. It's difficult to see how you would encourage the player base to move to the remaster.

You can buy ME2 and play it without issues and have access to countless mods. A remaster is not (for my money) going to improve your experience of the game.

[FriedAss (Squid/Ward)]

Just slightly updated visuals for game and UI, bug fixes, stability increased for modern OSes, 4gb patch built-in, and Steam achievements. Steam workshop would be amazing if it was possible.

[Flopper]

Camera controls being updated would be a nice touch aswell

[FriedAss (Squid/Ward)]

Yes!

[JoeyTesla]

Honestly, i would love a ME2 remaster, just for the achievements. maybe ill reinstall it soon now

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by FriedAss (Squid/Ward):

Is there any news of a Medieval 2 Remastered yet? It would be a guaranteed hit.

It won't. Rome remastered didn't sell well (yet better than Pharaoh) so they won't bother. If they make more TW games it will be so that they can sell tons of half assed DLC for exorbitant amounts of money.

[Andy]

There is a fan made 'successor' to med 2 just entering development
See youtube channel 'Broken Rampart Interactive'

[希拉克略帝]

I have asked about this before. Many people in Chinese Mainland also expect that the Middle Ages II Comprehensive War will be reprinted. And I have been looking forward to it for a long time, and the vast majority are asking when the remastered version of Medieval 2 Total War will be released. As a Chinese, I also think so.

[希拉克略帝]

Although I don't understand English, I use a domestic translation website. But I still really hope that there will be a remake of Medieval 2 Total War. I hope there will be next year.

[Havean]

Originally posted by Pain...:

Originally posted by FriedAss (Squid/Ward):

Is there any news of a Medieval 2 Remastered yet? It would be a guaranteed hit.

It won't. Rome remastered didn't sell well (yet better than Pharaoh) so they won't bother. If they make more TW games it will be so that they can sell tons of half assed DLC for exorbitant amounts of money.

Yeah but how much could of really cost to remaster it? Bet it still made profit.

Originally posted by FriedAss (Squid/Ward):

Just slightly updated visuals for game and UI, bug fixes, stability increased for modern OSes, 4gb patch built-in, and Steam achievements. Steam workshop would be amazing if it was possible.

Please don't change the UI. I hate the Rome remaster one that expects me to carry a magnifying glass with me.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Havean:

Originally posted by Pain...:

It won't. Rome remastered didn't sell well (yet better than Pharaoh) so they won't bother. If they make more TW games it will be so that they can sell tons of half assed DLC for exorbitant amounts of money.

Yeah but how much could of really cost to remaster it? Bet it still made profit.

I imagine it did, but you got to understand they're extremely greedy and won't bother with anything that won't benefit them massively. There's a specific term for it which right now eludes me, but companies consider possible profit as well, in other words why divert resources to a project that will probably make you marginally more than its cost when you could allocate said resources to a project that you believe will make you a massive profit.

Originally posted by Havean:

Originally posted by FriedAss (Squid/Ward):

Just slightly updated visuals for game and UI, bug fixes, stability increased for modern OSes, 4gb patch built-in, and Steam achievements. Steam workshop would be amazing if it was possible.

Please don't change the UI. I hate the Rome remaster one that expects me to carry a magnifying glass with me.

I too find the UI atrocious, have you found a way to make unit banners on the battlefield bigger?

[xDizzyBx]

I would love to see a Rome 2 Remastered.

[Goffik]

Originally posted by Andy:

What would you expect to improve in the remaster?

The same thing the vast majority of remasters improve... the graphics. No, doing so does not necessarily add anything groundbreaking or fix any major issues, but so what?

A remaster is not a remake. When you buy a remastered movie you don't expect them to switch a bad actor for a good one, change scenes, or fill in plot holes. They are made to bring an old movie with "substandard" audio/visuals closer to current standards.

The same is true of game remasters, of which there are many, and Medieval 2 could certainly benefit from this process. A remake would be Medieval 3 (or a clone by another dev that is similar in all but name), at which point new features would certainly be expected.

Also, the modding aspect isn't really relevant. The reality is that the vast majority of people who buy and play a game never delve into the modding side of things. Of those that do, very few have purchased a game solely for it's mods. So a game's profits (or loses) do not hinge on how moddable it is, or whether it will achieve a respectable modding community.

[Andy]

Originally posted by Goffik:

Also, the modding aspect isn't really relevant. The reality is that the vast majority of people who buy and play a game never delve into the modding side of things. Of those that do, very few have purchased a game solely for it's mods. So a game's profits (or loses) do not hinge on how moddable it is, or whether it will achieve a respectable modding community.

This argument holds weight with new games. But, a 17 year old game?
I'm not so sure.
One of the main reasons the game is still being played to the extent it is 17 years later is the vast numbers of mods creating endless replay-ability.
So, you'd be expecting people to move over to the remaster on the back of just better graphics ...

Original Rome didn't have much of a player base due to the performance issues, but even now original Rome has nearly as many players as the remaster gets.
Take a game with a decent player base, without performance issues and with vast numbers of mods. The outcome won't be as good as Rome. And Romes numbers were poor.

There's no outcome here where the effort and cost to make a Medieval 2 remaster is worth the reward for CA/Sega/Feral.

[Jim Lahey]

Originally posted by Andy:

Originally posted by Goffik:

Also, the modding aspect isn't really relevant. The reality is that the vast majority of people who buy and play a game never delve into the modding side of things. Of those that do, very few have purchased a game solely for it's mods. So a game's profits (or loses) do not hinge on how moddable it is, or whether it will achieve a respectable modding community.

This argument holds weight with new games. But, a 17 year old game?
I'm not so sure.
One of the main reasons the game is still being played to the extent it is 17 years later is the vast numbers of mods creating endless replay-ability.
So, you'd be expecting people to move over to the remaster on the back of just better graphics ...

Original Rome didn't have much of a player base due to the performance issues, but even now original Rome has nearly as many players as the remaster gets.
Take a game with a decent player base, without performance issues and with vast numbers of mods. The outcome won't be as good as Rome. And Romes numbers were poor.

There's no outcome here where the effort and cost to make a Medieval 2 remaster is worth the reward for CA/Sega/Feral.

I could have sworn that people play Total War because the gameplay scratches an itch that others do not. So remastering this would make it viable to newer systems. Plus, much like they did for the original Rome: Total War remaster... They did implement some QoL changes, plus balancing things that were long broken... Maybe a remaster will fix the pikemen and other problems of that nature.