Does Total War Rome I Remastered include a copy of the original Total War:Rome?

[rakovsky]

I heard that the Remastered version is practically the same as the original TW Rome I, but put into the TW Rome II Game Engine, and that some gamers prefer the original TW Rome I.

The Description for TW Rome Remastered says:
"ROME REMASTERED includes the Alexander and Barbarian Invasion DLCs, as well as a copy of the original ROME: Total War Collection* if you don’t already own it."

The ROME: Total War Collection page is here:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4760/Rome_Total_War__Collection/?curator_clanid=32991376

It looks like it's the original TW Rome I game. So does TW Rome I Remastered include both the original version and the remastered version?

[Lagy_Paladin]

yes, if you don't own it already.

[Obdilord]

It does but I haven't heard a single person prefer the og to the remaster. The only thing that would be preferred in the og is the UI and the classic tutorial VAs.

[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by Obdilord:

It does but I haven't heard a single person prefer the og to the remaster. The only thing that would be preferred in the og is the UI and the classic tutorial VAs.

You just need to head to the Rome forum to hear them (myself included)
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[Flash Gordon]

I just bought the Remastered today. It's been over 7 years since I played Rome TW.
I bought the game back in the day, but it was on a old pc I used to have, and when it broke down, I lost the game; not Steam bought.
When I got my new PC, I bought Napoleon TW, and got lost in that for years.

Finally decided to buy Rome TW again. Bought the Remastered. I haven't played it for more than an hour so far. But I do have some first impressions.

1) Campaign Map sucks. I hate it. It does look very cartoonish. The old map was better than this. The campaign map from Napoleon is the kind of map I would have preferred; graphics wise. The new map makes the game feel like a cheap SIM.
I mean, it looks like the prototype for "Rome: TW", not an advancement to the original. Like something that came out in early 2000's.

2) I don't like the new User Interface. Like I said, it's been 7 years since I played Rome, so maybe there's some things that I forgot. But, in my mind, the old UI was better than this new one. I'm squinting to read the text. It feels like it takes me longer to find what I'm looking for in my settlements. The old UI felt much simpler to me and user friendly.

When I owned the original Rome TW, I played the hell out of it. So I am a fan!
But, so far, 1st impressions, I don't like the changes in the Remastered version.

[rakovsky]

Sometimes remasterings can have improvements or step-downs. I love the AOE series, and AOE1 and AOE2 were made about 20 years ago. About 10 years ago, HD versions came out for both, and I like both of them a lot. The AOE1 HD version is missing a lot of the ambient environmental sounds, particularly bird calls. But otherwise the HD version is the same or better.

Then, a few years ago, "AOE1: Definitive Edition" and AOE2 Def. Ed. came out. AOE1:DE used the AOE1 HD engine, so it doesn't have the ambient sounds. The AOE DE graphics are much much better, but AOE1:DE is not as good as AOE1 DE in some respects. The game designers apparently were planning to do more work on AOE1DE than they finished. For instance, AOE1 has a map/artwork area in the instruction screen. However, AOE1:DE does not allow you to add pictures/maps/art to your instructions. There is a box in the Editor for the player to upload the maps/art, but the Editor doesn't successfully upload the maps/art. A game designer told me that the problem is that the game programming lacks the "strings" to connect the player's map files to the scenario files. So far the worst aspect when I played AOE1:DE a year ago was how the Multiplayer system kept crashing/desyncing when I had a lot of players (like 8) in a room.

[mastervovan]

the new UI notification sucks bad

in old you could list through the contruction finished settlements and queue up new buildings with ease, new one is much more annoying

[hugopearce]

I was playing the WRE in rome total war remastered, and there is a serious crash problem.

After turn 94 the campaign crashes, it cannot get to turn 95.

Also whennever I try to take the last lombardi settlement, or destroy the lombardi the game crashes, either directly or after the end turn. So I suspect that seems to be the problem.

I had a similar problme earlier in my campaign where the WRE rebels only had their faction leader left, and whennever I tried to kill him in battle the game would crash after the end turn.
I somehow solved this issue by letting one of my cities rebel and retaking it, which seemed to fix that particular problem, as I was then able to kill that particular faction leader.

But this time with the lombardi I don't really see how I can overcome this bug. If anyone has some valuable advice it would be welcomed.

It is not the first time I have had campaign crashing issues with rome total war remastered. It is really fustrating, a remastered version should be more stable than the original, not less.

[Anderson]

Did they add any new Voice acting for battles in Barbarian Invasion and Alexander? Generals said like 2 lines before battles in the original version.

[Jambie Lionheart]

I honestly don't understand the complaints. I haven't tried the original that came with the remaster but they shouldn't have changed anything in it so it shouldn't be any different than the same old game we've all been playing pre-remaster.

@Anderson, are you kidding? In original version my generals would talk for entire minutes at a time, calling the gauls bastards and insulting Hannibles mother while also stating how lonely and abandoned the enemy is by daring to show up without re-enforcements. The occassional general then went on the rant about hats, owls and their combined consiracy to ruin his battle plans (something along those lines) LOL. I unno about anyone else, but I damn near pissed myself the first time I heard these glorious speeches.

Edit: OIne thing the remastered version got rid of that kinda irks me is the advisor voice overs. I wonder if they're going to replace them eventually to accommodate the new layout.

[Jambie Lionheart]

Also... loading my save game up after a few days, I may have just found another bug. When I saved it, there was two and a half Briton armies poised to take Mogontiacum from me. I'm pretty sure they were still quite intent on taking the settlement when I exited the game. Anyways, they seem to be heading elsewhere. Wondered if anyone else has caught this yet?

[mastervovan]

Originally posted by CtMurphy:

I honestly don't understand the complaints. I haven't tried the original that came with the remaster but they shouldn't have changed anything in it so it shouldn't be any different than the same old game we've all been playing pre-remaster.

@Anderson, are you kidding? In original version my generals would talk for entire minutes at a time, calling the gauls bastards and insulting Hannibles mother while also stating how lonely and abandoned the enemy is by daring to show up without re-enforcements. The occassional general then went on the rant about hats, owls and their combined consiracy to ruin his battle plans (something along those lines) LOL. I unno about anyone else, but I damn near pissed myself the first time I heard these glorious speeches.

Edit: OIne thing the remastered version got rid of that kinda irks me is the advisor voice overs. I wonder if they're going to replace them eventually to accommodate the new layout.

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Originally posted by CtMurphy:

Also... loading my save game up after a few days, I may have just found another bug. When I saved it, there was two and a half Briton armies poised to take Mogontiacum from me. I'm pretty sure they were still quite intent on taking the settlement when I exited the game. Anyways, they seem to be heading elsewhere. Wondered if anyone else has caught this yet?

[Jambie Lionheart]

mastervovan
I posted it exactly where I meant to.

[Hat8]

Originally posted by Obdilord:

It does but I haven't heard a single person prefer the og to the remaster. The only thing that would be preferred in the og is the UI and the classic tutorial VAs.

This remaster is really good. You can disable pretty much all of the new remaster features and just play the game as the original, but with improved graphics.

However, all of the new features are actually good.

[mastervovan]

Originally posted by Hat8:

Originally posted by Obdilord:

It does but I haven't heard a single person prefer the og to the remaster. The only thing that would be preferred in the og is the UI and the classic tutorial VAs.

This remaster is really good. You can disable pretty much all of the new remaster features and just play the game as the original, but with improved graphics.

However, all of the new features are actually good.

old ui beats the slightly better graphics and whatnot