Is it worth getting the Remastered?

[HunterFromAbove]

I see that overall, judging by the reviews the remaster has been well received, however there are quite some complains particularly about the new UI, and that overall, except for the modern graphics there hasn't really been that much improvement (although I am well aware that a remaster usually just means updated graphics, but the gameplay itself remains the same).

So is it worth getting it atm?

And also one question about the grand campaign, if you fail to achieve the victory conditions in time, does the campaign just end or can you continue to play indefinetely?

[bladerunner97]

The only way to find out is to get it and see for yourself. You can always re-fund it if you don't like it.

Thought I'd add that I play this one with the RTR: Imperium Surrectum mod.

[That'll be the Door]

Rome 2 is much better then rome 1 i would recommend against it

[Cpl. Burden R 3294]

Originally posted by HunterFromAbove:

I see that overall, judging by the reviews the remaster has been well received, however there are quite some complains particularly about the new UI, and that overall, except for the modern graphics there hasn't really been that much improvement (although I am well aware that a remaster usually just means updated graphics, but the gameplay itself remains the same).

So is it worth getting it atm?

And also one question about the grand campaign, if you fail to achieve the victory conditions in time, does the campaign just end or can you continue to play indefinetely?

Regarding the UI, I'll probably get it in the neck but, It really isn't horrible. It's been some years since I played the original so maybe I wasn't overly attached to it. That could be why it wasn't a problem for me personally, I don't know. As Bladerunner says, try it yourself, if it's a problem, refund.

The major reason to get the remaster, as a fan of Rome Total War, is it's vastly improved performance on modern systems compared to the original. Personally, everything else improved is just gravy. Yes, graphical improvements are nice, but, as the original proved, modders can do all that sort of things. It's core engine and exe changes that we can't fix. That's what remasters have to tackle.

There are some issues with pathfinding, but there with issues with that in the original too, and they only really raise their head when playing with some of the new experimental settings (really big unit sizes etc) so, it's less "oh they never fixed the bugs!" as "adding extra functionality kind of introduced a few new ones as a side effect"

The remaster also adds Merchants, similar in function and form to the ones in Medieval Total War II, so they're handy. Minor thing but it's nice.

Overall I am happy with it, but, I do appear to be in a minority, I admit.

[Bomber]

Originally posted by HunterFromAbove:

And also one question about the grand campaign, if you fail to achieve the victory conditions in time, does the campaign just end or can you continue to play indefinetely?

Its only a soft victory. So it doesn't matter if you win or fail, you can play on. The only "hardcoded" gamestop is if you conquered every single province (whole map) or if you lost every province.

Its totally worth it If you liked the original rome total war. They will put out at least a couple more patches to support modding (increased faction limit) and some patches might even include other improvements for the game.
Worst case they only put out more modding support and few bug fixed, but even in that case you will be able to use mods that improve the game.

If you look at the workshop, even with the game limitations there are already some nice mods like the big map expansion (magnus mundus map) and couple smaller ones that add new buildings/units/etc. So the mods alone are worth the game.


Other side:
Not worth it if you already own the old rome total war and if you are totally happy with all these mods that have been created over the last 20 years and you don't care about the small new features (like merchants) or the improved future mods. In this case just wait another 1-2 years and pick it up during some special sale.

[Enigmatic]

Originally posted by DARPA Chief Donald Anderson™:

Rome 2 is much better then rome 1 i would recommend against it

I found with Atilla Rome 2 is really redundant.
Rome 1 I found more fun -minus being able to play Armenia in rome 2.
But Atilla improves on Rome 2.

Rome 1 Remastered is actually quite good for buildings. Battles, sieges, and Balance.
Rome 1 plays vastly different. and actually I see why people like it so much more than Rome 2.

[ThatGuy]

I'd wait for a patch or two theres some really annoying bugs with movement but after that id say pick it up. Rome 1 is easy to modify if you dont like something

[Marshall of the Templars]

Originally posted by HunterFromAbove:

So is it worth getting it atm?

It depends on where you stand with the original game, actually.

If you still play the original vanilla game on Windows 10 and everything is working fine, then its probably not worth getting the Remaster at full price.

However, if you are on a new PC that couldn't run the original game even after going through a lot of troubleshooting steps found online, then it's really worth getting the Remaster.

If your playtime with the original game is now spent mostly with total conversion mods such as Europa Barbarorum, I suggest holding off a bit as the modding scene for the Remaster is still in its early stages. Which wasn't helped by the fact that bringing over mods from the original game to the Remaster was more difficult than what fans had speculated.

[Earthane]

Rome Total War includes two extra expansions too. So it is excellent value for a new release as it is actually three games.

Just understand that when you first enter the game you might feel like you are in an arcade helicopter gunship rather than a game that is supposed to simulate ancient battles. This is the problem a number of users have faced. Learn how to dump all the childish UI features, including the missile tracer or whatever the thing is called, because that is enough to instantly turn off any veteran of the Total War series. Once you learn how to configure the UI, it looks and runs fantastic, but do look at the specifications before you buy it because they are much higher than the old game.

I will not be going back to Rome Total War now. This version is way superior and there are already a range of very promising mods to help enhance it.

If you can forgive me for offering a very basic tip to the creators of the new UI, in the spirit of Michael Cane, as this might help you to understand why so many people are unhappy:

“You’re only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!”
(If you do not know the movie clip, just search for it and all will become very clear)

[SinStar87 (He/Him)]

Just found out they abandoned Three Kingdoms support so I've lost hope this is going to work out in any meaningful fashion given that 3k had far more sales and a much larger playerbase.

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron Raptor]

Originally posted by SinStar87:

Just found out they abandoned Three Kingdoms support so I've lost hope this is going to work out in any meaningful fashion given that 3k had far more sales and a much larger playerbase.

Not same company even, and 3K has been out for several years now.

[SinStar87 (He/Him)]

Originally posted by |Sith|Galvanized Iron:

Originally posted by SinStar87:

Just found out they abandoned Three Kingdoms support so I've lost hope this is going to work out in any meaningful fashion given that 3k had far more sales and a much larger playerbase.

Not same company even, and 3K has been out for several years now.

Would be nice to believe but both sega and ca are tied up in this all the same. And it has a far higher active playerbase to milk for further dlc, which have yet to reach the three kingdoms era proper on its campaigns, and so far more money to make off than this. Like I said, if they're fine with dumping that game where it is, I've given up hope on this one.

[Winged Hussar]

I would not buy it unless you get it for half price in it's current state. It's definitely not a $30 game. Your basically playing for graphics and an updated camera. The other enhancements fail to adequately improve over the original and makes you wonder why they bothered to change it in the first place.

[Twelvefield]

I like this game. I liked the original Rome. The Remaster is okay. It has some bugs, and it's a port of a game from 2004, so those are things to consider. If you don't pick it up now, certainly wait for a sale. Mods will make Rome better, but those will take some time.

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron Raptor]

Originally posted by Winged Hussar:

I would not buy it unless you get it for half price in it's current state. It's definitely not a $30 game. Your basically playing for graphics and an updated camera. The other enhancements fail to adequately improve over the original and makes you wonder why they bothered to change it in the first place.

If he has Rome 1 then he can get it at half price until 1st of June

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron Raptor]

Originally posted by SinStar87:

Originally posted by |Sith|Galvanized Iron:

Not same company even, and 3K has been out for several years now.

Would be nice to believe but both sega and ca are tied up in this all the same. And it has a far higher active playerbase to milk for further dlc, which have yet to reach the three kingdoms era proper on its campaigns, and so far more money to make off than this. Like I said, if they're fine with dumping that game where it is, I've given up hope on this one.

But even them has basically supported every game they released for the first half year at least, and usually longer. Also the game did sell quite good, even if you cannot compare it to the newer titles, but that is expected. You have to consider that the costs involved are also quite low as the developers involved are fewer.