ssd vs hdd

[ImReallyWeTodded]

Is there difference between fps? Since it's not open world game and load times aren't a issue for me.

[talgaby]

In fps, no, if you have a room loaded.
In average fps, very much. The game continually loads and unloads textures as you move along, so it has a ridiculously high transfer rate for a game. Installing it on an HDD can result in more significant framerate dips on room transitions.

[DeadPhoenix]

Always install on a SSD.

[Rekta]

yea I put mine on SSD but I get stuttering the main hall of the RPD but I could have something to do with me only having a quad core cpu (aka I5 6500) only in like 2 or 3 certain places regardless of graphic settings but after I leave Main hall it runs a solid 60 fps

[Face_roll_dude]

its 12, the answer is 14

[Overseer]

Does anyone have actual data on this or is all just based on "SSDs are faster therefore better" assumptions?

[talgaby]

Naturally: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/resident-evil-2-remake-hdd-cant-load-game-zones-at-time-and-freezes.252448/
Since the game stores everything in a 22 GB pack, the HDD has to seek through the entire file every time you switch rooms. SSDs do not have a similar sequential reading issue.

Initial loads are relatively tame though, unlike RE7, where you had to load the entire main house every time you loaded from freshly booting. There, an HDD added over a minute to the load time (SSDs handled it reasonably well).

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Alfred:

Is there difference between fps? Since it's not open world game and load times aren't a issue for me.

Installing a game in ssd or hdd doesn't affect fps at all. Only loading times. The game will not perform any better by installing on a ssd. Don't believe in anyone that tells you otherwise. RE2 has no loading times apart from the very first one when you start the game and even that one is so quick that you won't even have time to read the synopses txt that appears telling you where you're in the story. It's like 5 seconds give or take on a HDD then it never happens again unless you die.

[Overseer]

Originally posted by talgaby:

Naturally: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/resident-evil-2-remake-hdd-cant-load-game-zones-at-time-and-freezes.252448/
Since the game stores everything in a 22 GB pack, the HDD has to seek through the entire file every time you switch rooms. SSDs do not have a similar sequential reading issue.

But what you linked is just a single case of a single individual with problems. It does not show anything that would allow a conclusion on HDD performance in this game. Otherwise plenty of people having it installed on a HDD would talk about rooms not loading. If anything i suspect an odd hardware/software configuration on an older 4 core processor that simply struggles to stream all the data.
Engines using these large packs of data can also create a register and literally search only that directly from RAM and then jump to the required data. The time required for access to that data is most likely not noticable in any way.

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Installing a game in ssd or hdd doesn't affect fps at all. Only loading times.

It can impact performance. Specifically when a core is waiting for a response from the drive, which delays a draw call for the GPU. The HDD could be busy looking for data another program just requested in the background, which increases access time and thus makes the CPU wait. All while the GPU is waiting for the CPU.

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Overseer:

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Installing a game in ssd or hdd doesn't affect fps at all. Only loading times.

It can impact performance. Specifically when a core is waiting for a response from the drive, which delays a draw call for the GPU. The HDD could be busy looking for data another program just requested in the background, which increases access time and thus makes the CPU wait. All while the GPU is waiting for the CPU.

No. SSD vs HDD does not impact performance in any capacity. You're tripping. Your CPU is not waiting for nothing from your drive. Your HD send the data to your memory ram in which is then read by your CPU. Both HDD and SSD are too slow to be read in real time during gameplay. They impact loading times ONLY and only loading times. Nothing else.

Now, if you have very little memory ram and it becomes full, then your game may try to pull data from your hard drive, but at this point your game will come to a complete halt. Your game will completely freeze for a few seconds.. and that is how slow pulling data from the drive is, in which case your issue is your lack of memory ram, not a slow HDD. Get this idea out of your mind.. your SSD is all cool and fast, but it won't give you better gameplay performance.

[Overseer]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

No. SSD vs HDD does not impact performance in any capacity. You're tripping. [...] They impact loading times ONLY and only loading times. Nothing else.[...] your SSD is all cool and fast, but it won't give you better gameplay performance.

These are quiet some bold claims. Do you have objective data to support this? Meaning all games ever released have ZERO changes in frame times and consistency from loading data, and if there are impacts on frame times ZERO measurabe difference between a HDD and a SSD. Verifiable data is required.

Or maybe its just a misunderstanding. The word performance can mean a lot. For example an average over a specific time. Which will go down once a data related frame drop happens.
This does not mean that a SSD will deliver a higher framerate on screen. But a higher average with a less noticable increase in frame times when loading data in. This is why i say it can affect performance.

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Overseer:

Originally posted by V I D A L:

No. SSD vs HDD does not impact performance in any capacity. You're tripping. [...] They impact loading times ONLY and only loading times. Nothing else.[...] your SSD is all cool and fast, but it won't give you better gameplay performance.

These are quiet some bold claims. Do you have objective data to support this? Meaning all games ever released have ZERO changes in frame times and consistency from loading data, and if there are impacts on frame times ZERO measurabe difference between a HDD and a SSD. Verifiable data is required.

Or maybe its just a misunderstanding. The word performance can mean a lot. For example an average over a specific time. Which will go down once a data related frame drop happens.
This does not mean that a SSD will deliver a higher framerate on screen. But a higher average with a less noticable increase in frame times when loading data in. This is why i say it can affect performance.

They are not bold claims, they are facts. I'm not sure what made you think that SSD could give you a better performance. Where did you hear that? SSD was never sold under a promise that would make your games perform better. It was always about fast loading. As I said, games are not reading from your hard drive in real time. Your memory ram stores temporary data in which your game uses in real time, not the drive.

About the word performance I mean frames per second and stability. I'm talking how well your game is running, if the frame rate is high, if it never drops... etc.. That, the SSD makes no difference whatsoever. The moment you have control over your character, it doesn't matter if you're playing on a HDD or SSD. The difference exist only when loading the game.

Now performance in loading times, then sure.. your SSD will make your computer to boot much faster, will boot your games much faster, the loading times will be faster... but it won't improve your gameplay, only how quick everything loads. A game like Anthem greatly benefits from a SSD because the game has loading times very frequently.. every area is separated by a loading time which can be very frustrating. SSD will help cruse those loading screens much quicker.

I don't need to provide you an "objective data". I'm sure you can confirm what I said in a matter of seconds by googling if SSD improves performance in games.

[Rekta]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Originally posted by Overseer:

These are quiet some bold claims. Do you have objective data to support this? Meaning all games ever released have ZERO changes in frame times and consistency from loading data, and if there are impacts on frame times ZERO measurabe difference between a HDD and a SSD. Verifiable data is required.

Or maybe its just a misunderstanding. The word performance can mean a lot. For example an average over a specific time. Which will go down once a data related frame drop happens.
This does not mean that a SSD will deliver a higher framerate on screen. But a higher average with a less noticable increase in frame times when loading data in. This is why i say it can affect performance.

They are not bold claims, they are facts. I'm not sure what made you think that SSD could give you a better performance. Where did you hear that? SSD was never sold under a promise that would make your games perform better. It was always about fast loading. As I said, games are not reading from your hard drive in real time. Your memory ram stores temporary data in which your game uses in real time, not the drive.

About the word performance I mean frames per second and stability. I'm talking how well your game is running, if the frame rate is high, if it never drops... etc.. That, the SSD makes no difference whatsoever. The moment you have control over your character, it doesn't matter if you're playing on a HDD or SSD. The difference exist only when loading the game.

Now performance in loading times, then sure.. your SSD will make your computer to boot much faster, will boot your games much faster, the loading times will be faster... but it won't improve your gameplay, only how quick everything loads. A game like Anthem greatly benefits from a SSD because the game has loading times very frequently.. every area is separated by a loading time which can be very frustrating. SSD will help cruse those loading screens much quicker.

I don't need to provide you an "objective data". I'm sure you can confirm what I said in a matter of seconds by googling if SSD improves performance in games.

Not sure I agree with this since I had RE2 on my HDD and performance was worse but when it was on my SSD it ran a lot better I’m going from personal experience to

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Stephen Bowman:

Originally posted by V I D A L:

They are not bold claims, they are facts. I'm not sure what made you think that SSD could give you a better performance. Where did you hear that? SSD was never sold under a promise that would make your games perform better. It was always about fast loading. As I said, games are not reading from your hard drive in real time. Your memory ram stores temporary data in which your game uses in real time, not the drive.

About the word performance I mean frames per second and stability. I'm talking how well your game is running, if the frame rate is high, if it never drops... etc.. That, the SSD makes no difference whatsoever. The moment you have control over your character, it doesn't matter if you're playing on a HDD or SSD. The difference exist only when loading the game.

Now performance in loading times, then sure.. your SSD will make your computer to boot much faster, will boot your games much faster, the loading times will be faster... but it won't improve your gameplay, only how quick everything loads. A game like Anthem greatly benefits from a SSD because the game has loading times very frequently.. every area is separated by a loading time which can be very frustrating. SSD will help cruse those loading screens much quicker.

I don't need to provide you an "objective data". I'm sure you can confirm what I said in a matter of seconds by googling if SSD improves performance in games.

Not sure I agree with this since I had RE2 on my HDD and performance was worse but when it was on my SSD it ran a lot better I’m going from personal experience to

And this is exactly how misinformation get spread on the internet... and fast.

[Rekta]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Originally posted by Stephen Bowman:

Not sure I agree with this since I had RE2 on my HDD and performance was worse but when it was on my SSD it ran a lot better I’m going from personal experience to

And this is exactly how misinformation get spread on the internet... and fast.

Think what you want but I’m going by what I have seen on my system
Btw I consider loading times part of performance but hey mark it as a separate category if you want

[Overseer]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

I'm talking how well your game is running, if the frame rate is high, if it never drops... etc.. That, the SSD makes no difference whatsoever. [...]
And this is exactly how misinformation get spread on the internet... and fast.

I am waiting for objective data that supports your claims. What you call misinformation is irrelevant.