Lightning bolt is the best spell in the game, change my mind.

[bof]

not even a meme, it is dangerous and you have to respect it or you will loose it and most likely your entire run. Are there any better spells out there?

[Doombringer]

Yes there are better spells, but lightning bolt is nice (especially with explosion immunity).

[Whisper]

There are defiantly spells that shine with the right set up on the right wands, no doubt. But as far as a single spell to slap onto any old wand so you can start blasting fools, lighting bolt is really good.

[Shrinkshooter]

>change your mind

No.

It's breddy gud as long as you aren't stupid with it. It's an instant take no matter what my build is. Does plenty of damage, you can easily mod it to be better, has a respectably large radius on the explosion, is the top-tier go-to spell for anything robotic or armored. Ironically though you don't really need electric immunity to stay mostly safe from this spell, just explosion immunity. I don't know that I'd call it the "best" spell, there are too many variables and circumstances to consider, but if you're just comparing plain attack spells to one another it's absolutely up there.

[MysticD'MeeM]

Lightning bolt is probably one of the best stand alone spells in the game
It uses damage types that can be resisted (explosion, shock) and has decent damage.
There is a small chance you may kill yourself but probably less than the thing you killed doing it first.

However, there's so many better spell combinations out there. Perhaps an explosion wand could out-perform the lightning bolt.

Bolt has a damage of, according to the wiki, 500/35. Explosion does 275/15.
Ergo, if you could cast explosion twice in the time it takes you to cast lightning bolt once, your dps will have increased. Because lightning bolt adds a .83s delay to spell cast while explosion only adds .05, it is easily possible to achieve this.

I would argue that a wand with unlimited spells (which is a perk I would almost never turn down), explosion and, say spark bolt w/ trigger would have ~3 times higher dps than lightning bolt but a higher mana/cast and be extension mana/second cost.

This is only an easily explained example, there's many better combinations out there.

[Shrinkshooter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MysticD'MeeM:

I would argue that a wand with unlimited spells

I'm pretty certain that static explosion spells are unlimited by default.

[Veal7Creative]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/881100/images/
This combo is better

[MysticD'MeeM]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shrinkshooter:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MysticD'MeeM:

I would argue that a wand with unlimited spells

I'm pretty certain that static explosion spells are unlimited by default.

I was originally going to use mist of spirits and giant explosion on drunk, must have forgotten to change it...

[Shrinkshooter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MysticD'MeeM:

I was originally going to use mist of spirits and giant explosion on drunk, must have forgotten to change it...

Oh, the mists are generally limited. Explosion on drunk shouldn't be, and I know that regular Explosion and (what was it called? Thunder? Electric?) Explosion are unlimited. If you're using mists then there's going to be a bottleneck.

I need to stop playing Noita.

[MysticD'MeeM]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shrinkshooter:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MysticD'MeeM:

I was originally going to use mist of spirits and giant explosion on drunk, must have forgotten to change it...

Oh, the mists are generally limited. Explosion on drunk shouldn't be, and I know that regular Explosion and (what was it called? Thunder? Electric?) Explosion are unlimited. If you're using mists then there's going to be a bottleneck.

I need to stop playing Noita.

Yeah, it was mists and spark with double trigger. Not the best example but I wanted something easy to explain and measurably more effective than lightning bolt.

[DuskBringer]

Nuke

[Fermion]

Lightning Bolt is how I beat the game the first time, so it's a good beginner spell, but there is a much higher dps ceiling for spells than lightning bolt can achieve. Lightning bolt just can't fire fast enough to really dish out damage properly, and you'll find it's not nearly as effective as you'd think against high-level enemies. Any machine-gun style weapon with a damage modifier easily out-classes it in both damage and reliability.

[General Income Tax]

Lightning is fine for up to and including the Hiisi base, but after that the enemies have ridiculous amounts of HP and will take 2-3 lightning bolts to kill, but because of the long cooldown you're often left vulnerable.

[Speeider]

good general spell but I don't trust it late game. Feels like it suddenly falls off and the deeper you go the more likely it is that one pixel in front of your character causes it to blow up point blank so I don't really trust it

[Icing]

I don't understand why the developers haven't nerfed Lightning bolt yet. This spell is real OP. It has an infinite number of uses and huge damage. Yes, you can kill yourself with it, but if you use it carefully, it always pays off.
The best spell.

[MechanicalRaven]

It's one of the most fun ways to commit suicide if you don't have Lightning and Explosion immunity.