Noita
Buffer Jul 7, 2023 @ 9:27pm
Does this game punish exploration and killing all enemies?
With the only guaranteed healing being holy mountain, it almost seems like the game is meant to be played somewhat rushing the boss

My last session was this and even though it was my best session it feels like I'm playing the game the wrong way https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3000839040
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Myno Jul 7, 2023 @ 10:47pm 
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No, it doesn't punish exploration.

Originally posted by Buffer:
With the only guaranteed healing being holy mountain

Not quite.

https://noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Dark_Cave
https://noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Healing#Refreshing_Gourd

And there's "infinite" Holy Mountains (in Parallel Worlds).

While not guaranteed, it's fairly easy to find at least one of the various means of healing; the easiest and most common probably being Pheremone potion (stain a Hiisi Healer with it).

If you're having trouble finding stuff for a good healing wand / digging wand / damage wand down the Main Path, then take a trip to the Overgrown Cavern (aka "Wand Mart"): https://noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Overgrown_Cavern
Buffer Jul 8, 2023 @ 2:16pm 
Lol literally everything you've mentioned are things I've yet to come across in this game

I just felt having played for 8 hours I should've been close to beating this game or at least "invincible" but things keep going on and on it's nuts. I'm tempted to look up how when/where the "end" is but part of me has resisted because I'm enjoying the mystery of it all, exploring things completely blind
Myno Jul 8, 2023 @ 7:24pm 
Originally posted by Buffer:
Lol literally everything you've mentioned are things I've yet to come across in this game

I just felt having played for 8 hours I should've been close to beating this game or at least "invincible" but things keep going on and on it's nuts. I'm tempted to look up how when/where the "end" is but part of me has resisted because I'm enjoying the mystery of it all, exploring things completely blind

8 hours is absolutely nothing in this game.

Going blind is fun, but unless you want to miss out on a mountain of content, you'll need to start looking things up eventually (maybe after 50~150 hours). There's a lot in this game that you will NEVER figure out by yourself (not without an unreasonable amount of luck and/or time, anyway). Getting down to the bottom of the Main Path and killing the main boss is but a small fraction of the game.

(And thanks for the Steam points, whoever.)
Last edited by Myno; Jul 8, 2023 @ 7:34pm
Buffer Jul 8, 2023 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Myno:
8 hours is absolutely nothing in this game.

Oh I'm at 70 hours playtime. 8 hours was my one session/world, which made me wonder was overkill or not and if one should've surely killed the main boss by then.

Do you recommend a strategy of what to look up and when? As of now I only look up more details on items once I find them, use them, and still can't figure out what they'd do (like Berserkium potion). I also intend to dig/explore the entiiiiiire world (if that's ever possible) and after that I figure I should be cool to look up anything
LostSoul Jul 11, 2023 @ 9:24am 
One of the strengths/weaknesses of Noita is that it explains nothing to you up front. Everything is from experimentation and testing. Or from web searching. And a lot of that experimentation ends with, well, starting over again from scratch, and hopefully you learned from said experimentation in the process. Unfortunately, when starting over from scratch, being able to apply whatever you learned is random (since what the game gives you to work with is also random), and it takes a lot of repetition to amass a sufficient amount knowledge to work around this randomness. One skill in particular is how to work with whatever the game gives you to make potent wands, which requires understanding how to effectively combine a wide variety of spells, modifiers, and perks.
Doom Sayer Jul 12, 2023 @ 6:22am 
I would say yes and no. Like certain things you can get have a extremely high chance of making a run. (spell stores) (certain bosses drop OP rewards). In my opinion real limiter is digging and speed of movement. Sometimes i feel like a good teleport wand is better than a infinite healing wand. Most things are more or less a waste of time if your objective is become unkillable.

There is some content that is incomplete, hidden or intentionally cut that people havent even figured out.

Main thing is if something feels petty and repetitive it is. I only go out of my way to do things petty and slow if i already have loot thats really good. Im not gonna spend time every start increasing my max HP by like 10 in same petty repetitive predictable way.

On hours thing i have 1.8k and havent done everything.

I suggest going as far as you can without tons of outside help then just go all in on wand and spell videos once you are having trouble learning anything. After that find what you can then maybe content spoilers if you want to.

Then on rushing its neither good nor bad. I have had very bad and good experiences with both. I would say its up to your mood and personality. I think maybe best thing is rushing grabbing a bare minimal of loot then when you get something really good then switch to exact opposite style being real careful. I never consciously planned out doing it that way but its what I end up doing.

You cant dig out entire world it has minecraft thing going on. I suggest finding boundary of starting world and exploring edges and in betweens then using a generated map image of noita's map. (they are on eazyzoom)

Just dont spoil yourself too much like no normal person will figure out stuff this community did but you should try to get the vibe i think. It has some ARG style stuff ingame.
Last edited by Doom Sayer; Jul 24, 2023 @ 4:01pm
Simoko Jul 12, 2023 @ 4:56pm 
It actually punishes rushing too fast. If your not careful you get easily get swarmed by enemies.
Therron Keen Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Buffer:
With the only guaranteed healing being holy mountain, it almost seems like the game is meant to be played somewhat rushing the boss

My last session was this and even though it was my best session it feels like I'm playing the game the wrong way https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3000839040


I've played over 500 hours spoiler free EXCEPT for looking up the mechanics of how spells work after I discover the spell on my own, and looking at wand building mechanics.

I haven't discovered even CLOSE to all this game has to offer.

Stay spoiler free, it's SO DAMN REWARDING (if you want to, it's your game lol)
Myno Jul 22, 2023 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by Therron Keen:
Stay spoiler free, it's SO DAMN REWARDING

Uh-huh, missing out on heaps of content because of some sort of stupid stubborn pride in not wanting any help is SUPER rewarding. /s

After a few hundred hours, start peeking at the wiki. This game was not designed to be figured out by yourself. But waste your time and miss half the game, if you insist.
Krake Jul 24, 2023 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Myno:
Originally posted by Therron Keen:
Stay spoiler free, it's SO DAMN REWARDING

Uh-huh, missing out on heaps of content because of some sort of stupid stubborn pride in not wanting any help is SUPER rewarding. /s
What does "missing out on heaps of content" mean in this case? He is having fun, so not missing anything. Rather content is SAVED for later.
Why so hostile? "stubborn pride" is ad hominem.
[sorry for contributing to thread derailing]
Therron Keen Jul 24, 2023 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Myno:
Originally posted by Therron Keen:
Stay spoiler free, it's SO DAMN REWARDING

Uh-huh, missing out on heaps of content because of some sort of stupid stubborn pride in not wanting any help is SUPER rewarding. /s

After a few hundred hours, start peeking at the wiki. This game was not designed to be figured out by yourself. But waste your time and miss half the game, if you insist.


What value do I gain by reading up on all the content, burning through all of it in one god run, and never touching the game again because there's nothing left to do?

I could just watch a playthrough on YouTube and then I wouldn't even have to play, that would save WAY more time. Why even play the game? lol

If the thing you enjoy is just watching the particle system spit out a bunch of pretty colors, then sure, I guess that's the more enjoyable method.

But anyway, I specifically said he should only do that *if he wanted to, it's his game*, and you still decided you needed to ♥♥♥♥ on my preference in how I enjoy my leisure time and wanted to share that opinion?
Takovacs Jul 25, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
You aren't going to do everything in 'one god run' buddy.
Vintorez Jul 26, 2023 @ 4:37pm 
Rushing is safer in terms of getting farther down more frequently though you will be even more at the mercy of RNG for spells. Full clearing is more rewarding as you can build up a bigger toolkit of spells and items to normalize your RNG. Hiisi Base provides a virtually guaranteed opportunity for a source of infinite healing. A bit inconvenient due to having to travel back each time you need a top up, but it serves as a good and reliable first step for launching a god run.
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