Just got unlimited black holes, what do I do know?

[bigulator]

I've never had a legitimate long run or god run in Noita and I think I finally found the chance for one. I found a zeta spell with some black holes and was wondering how I could use these to their fullest potential, and maybe get a long run going. I don't know where to go or how to start this, can anybody give me tips or a guide? I don't want to mess this up.

[Sol]

Hey man, try posting this on reddit r/noita. It's busier there than here, there are more people who can help you than here.

[Outsider]

Get to The Gold, so you can reroll perks at leisure.
That's what I would do.

[Black Sheep Inc]

Without getting too spoilerific, try to find a teleport spell and some ambrosia and go back up to the surface. Once there, pick a direction (either east or west) and just keep going. Don't let the extremely dense rock walls stop you; you'll know what the ambrosia and teleports are for when you see it, and you'll know when you've gone far enough once the journey has come full circle, so to speak. Oh, and don't stick around to fight anything overtly dangerous that gets in your way. Just keep running until you get where you're going. Also, once there, do not take the portals. ANY of them.

Also also, if you've found either Alpgha, Gamma, Omega, Phi, or Tau, they're all better choices for what you want to do with Zeta here. Also, also, also, keep a sharp eye out for healing spells; if you have access to greek letters, they're a game-changer.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Outsider:

Get to The Gold, so you can reroll perks at leisure.
That's what I would do.

Go bigger- Visit parallel worlds, visit 39 different holy mountains, roughly 7 parallel worlds in addition to the main world, to generate their reroll machine with the existing reroll price.

Do not reroll while doing this if you can avoid it- Every visited reroll machine will have the Current reroll price assigned to them, so the more you reroll, the more expensive this whole process is. You may need to visit the gold biomes to get enough to reroll all of them, depending on how much you rerolled before you started doing this.

If there is a perk you want to grab from any of these holy mountains, use the infinite black holes to drop the reroll machine roughly a screen length below the holy mountain, then go grab the perk.

Once you've visited all these holy mountains, back track and reroll once at every single one of the 39~ holy mountains- Each time, the price will be whatever it was when you first generated it, but will then jump to the new proper price.

Repeat across all 39 mountains, and the price of a reroll escalates over the 50~trillion gold limit and overflows, becoming a price an extremly leftward offset 1.

Yes, 1. 1 gold. You can now reroll around 975~ times for between 1 and 9 gold each. After that 975~th roll, the price fixes itself and becomes an amount you basically are never going to be able to afford though. But this is more than enough to set you up on an incredible run.

[Boksha]

I should add that if you don't do what Shurenai suggests, you won't be able to re-roll more than 11 times even if you completely clean out two gold biomes (for 250k gold each). Re-rolls get more expensive fast.

[FlappyDappy]

dont get polyed

[Captain McButtNugget]

Originally posted by ThatMoistCat:

dont get polyed

This. Polymorph is a big cause of death on longer runs. It doesn't help that poly and chaotic poly have a pinky and purply hue. So do slime, fungal blood, berserkium, poison, ominous liquid, and pheromone. Thank god I'm not colorblind.

If you can find an orbit larpa it goes well with your black hole. Dragon sometimes drops it. It makes a wider hole, and also makes going to parallel worlds easier. It creates divots for you to pour ambrosia. If you don't have ambrosia, the wider hole is safer because touching cursed rock does a lot more damage to you than does travelling through it.

[bigulator]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Outsider:

Get to The Gold, so you can reroll perks at leisure.
That's what I would do.

Go bigger- Visit parallel worlds, visit 39 different holy mountains, roughly 7 parallel worlds in addition to the main world, to generate their reroll machine with the existing reroll price.

Do not reroll while doing this if you can avoid it- Every visited reroll machine will have the Current reroll price assigned to them, so the more you reroll, the more expensive this whole process is. You may need to visit the gold biomes to get enough to reroll all of them, depending on how much you rerolled before you started doing this.

If there is a perk you want to grab from any of these holy mountains, use the infinite black holes to drop the reroll machine roughly a screen length below the holy mountain, then go grab the perk.

Once you've visited all these holy mountains, back track and reroll once at every single one of the 39~ holy mountains- Each time, the price will be whatever it was when you first generated it, but will then jump to the new proper price.

Repeat across all 39 mountains, and the price of a reroll escalates over the 50~trillion gold limit and overflows, becoming a price an extremly leftward offset 1.

Yes, 1. 1 gold. You can now reroll around 975~ times for between 1 and 9 gold each. After that 975~th roll, the price fixes itself and becomes an amount you basically are never going to be able to afford though. But this is more than enough to set you up on an incredible run.

I think that's far beyond what I'm doing right now. I'll get to that later if I can. Also, do you suggest going to somewhere like the overgrown caverns to get good spells and wands?

[MBlack]

You gotta think bigger, bigulator. Do what Black Sheep says, get ambrosia and go to the far reaches of the world. When the game is telling you you can't go further, break the game and do it anyways. You are on a quest to godhood. The world is at your fingertips.

If you don't have the Tinker With Wands Anywhere perk, go to the Wizard's Den to the east of the Temple of the Arts. A boss there will give you what you seek, but beware, as he requires a certain tactic and is very dangerous especially if you do tons of damage. Once you've obtained his treasure (or you have the perk), you can go explore around the other biomes, only grabbing certain spells from wands to upgrade your existing wands.

Always, ALWAYS be wary of polymorph. One of the wizards in the Wizard's Den will cast it, and it WILL kill you. Eating his body will help you, for a time.

What Shurenai said is pretty good but he explains some advanced concepts that only make sense if you've done this a lot of times.

[TheSpecial_K]

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