mod to enable achievements? (plz lock this thread lol)

[Mom]

I just want to play with like a QOL mod or two to break up some monotony, or just to ride a minecart
Are there any mods to add like a .dll to re enable achievements? I could just use SAM but like, i want to actually ((Achieve)) things but also have just like A mod or two.

[Ω]

Same thought here.

[Marmarmar34]

Idk fairly certain it's hard coded into the game

[Mom]

I know it's hard coded, but just as it was coded in Divinity Original Sin 2, you can make .dll mods that usurp the code. If a large studio can have a mod for their game surely this small indie dev team can get this modded in.

Btw that divinity Original sin 2 mod is also now out of date, and has been for half a year or so. Just a thought tho.

[saurce]

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

[Rhadamante]

In the save folder, in the "world-state.xml" file, there's a line:

mods_have_been_active_during_this_run="0" 

I'm guessing it turns to 1 when using mods. Maybe try changing it to 0 after starting a new modded run ? Don't know if it resets every time though, haven't tried it myself.
Even if it works, I'm fairly certain it won't re-enable the couple secrets that mods disable.

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

Some mods, like changing the robe's colors or removing that stupid red flashing when hurt bs do not really affect gameplay. It'd be nice if the game allowed them without blocking achievements (like it does translation mods)

[Marmarmar34]

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

That is a very presumptuous statement, it's a single player game so who tf cares how someone else enjoys it.

[Necrius]

Originally posted by Marmarmar34:

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

That is a very presumptuous statement, it's a single player game so who tf cares how someone else enjoys it.

Achievements are not single player on Steam. You're invalidating whole idea of achievements. Just use SAM to get 100% , that'll be just as cheap.

[Woe]

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

Lmao disrespectful, He bought the game so he can do whatever the hell he wants with it despite what the devs try to force on its players

[Damnion]

Originally posted by Woe:

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

Lmao disrespectful, He bought the game so he can do whatever the hell he wants with it despite what the devs try to force on its players

Bet you think it's fine to hack the high score board too. Kinda defeats the purpose of achievements/high scores.

[Hey what?]

video games are very serious and if you cheat at them I'll tell my mom on you.

[Perseus]

Originally posted by Damnion:

Originally posted by Woe:

Lmao disrespectful, He bought the game so he can do whatever the hell he wants with it despite what the devs try to force on its players

Bet you think it's fine to hack the high score board too. Kinda defeats the purpose of achievements/high scores.

Woe never said anything about hacking or high score boards (which aren't even relevant, given the fact there's no score boards for Noita), you've exaggerated what they said. (straw man fallacy)

Also, you haven't described what you think the purpose of achievements is (and how it clashes with what Woe says), which is important because it differs from person to person and needs to be known for your argument to be valid or refutable.

[Necrius]

Originally posted by Perseus:

Originally posted by Damnion:

Bet you think it's fine to hack the high score board too. Kinda defeats the purpose of achievements/high scores.

Woe never said anything about hacking or high score boards (which aren't even relevant, given the fact there's no score boards for Noita), you've exaggerated what they said. (straw man fallacy)

Also, you haven't described what you think the purpose of achievements is (and how it clashes with what Woe says), which is important because it differs from person to person and needs to be known for your argument to be valid or refutable.

The purpose of achievements is objective - bragging rights. Getting achievements through modded gameplay is as cheap as just hacking them all in with SAM - there's no way for the game to see difference between "quality of life" and "god mode" mods. His argument is valid, yours isn't.

[brianhj]

Originally posted by Marmarmar34:

Originally posted by popcorn head:

Mods, or achievements. Pick one. You don't get to have both. If you do manage to hack the game to have both, then you're subverting the designs of the developers. Disrespectful.

That is a very presumptuous statement, it's a single player game so who tf cares how someone else enjoys it.

No one cares how you enjoy the game until you want to have achievements with mods enabled. That dilutes what an "achievement" means for everyone.

Edit: obviously we're talking about steam achievements here and not the in-game achievement pillars

[brianhj]

Originally posted by Perseus:

Originally posted by Damnion:

Bet you think it's fine to hack the high score board too. Kinda defeats the purpose of achievements/high scores.

Woe never said anything about hacking or high score boards (which aren't even relevant, given the fact there's no score boards for Noita), you've exaggerated what they said. (straw man fallacy)

Also, you haven't described what you think the purpose of achievements is (and how it clashes with what Woe says), which is important because it differs from person to person and needs to be known for your argument to be valid or refutable.

It doesn't matter what "achievement" means to players. It matters what it means to steam and the devs. Players don't get to decide what is an achievement and what isn't.

Achievements become absolutely meaningless (even more than they already are) if it were possible to have them with mods enabled.

[Perseus]

Originally posted by Necrius:

The purpose of achievements is objective - bragging rights.

Some wouldn't agree, that why i asked the question.
Also, since there are always going to be people cheating to get achievements, a part of that purpose just fails.

Originally posted by Necrius:

Getting achievements through modded gameplay is as cheap as just hacking them all in with SAM

Originally posted by brianhj:

Achievements become absolutely meaningless (even more than they already are) if it were possible to have them with mods enabled.

Achievements through modded gameplay isn't the same as hacking them all in with SAM, there's a big difference. OP wants to actually earn them, and the mods they want would have little to no impact on the way they get them.

Also, people can get some achievements through modded gameplay anyways : 100% enemies, 100% perks and 100% spells progress can all be achieved that way.

And if you consider [backing up saves in case you die], then some people already have gotten achievements """the wrong way""", and therefore rendered them "absolutely meaningless".

Originally posted by brianhj:

It doesn't matter what "achievement" means to players. It matters what it means to steam and the devs. Players don't get to decide what is an achievement and what isn't.

Originally posted by brianhj:

No one cares how you enjoy the game until you want to have achievements with mods enabled. That dilutes what an "achievement" means for everyone.

For some people, achievements have a personal value.
For some people, achievements are worth nothing.
For some people, achievements are a way to view game completition.
For some people, achievements are something i havent mentioned here.
For some people, achievements are a combination of the above.

Also, how can one know for sure what achievements means to steam and the devs?

Since you say it matters what achievement means to steam and the devs, let me rephrase my previous statement :
You havent described or gave a source to what the devs/steam think the purpose of achievements is (and how it clashes with what Woe says), which is important because it differs from person to person and needs to be known for your argument to be valid or refutable.