Here is what was censored

[Shylaar]

People keep making threads without putting this information in the OP, leaving it buried in arguments and making it difficult to find, while others downplay how much was censored. So here:

Originally posted by Shylaar:

Here's are comparisons that I was able to find after a few minutes of searching:
Zeta: https://i.imgur.com/E4vFVsH.jpeg
Djeeta: https://i.imgur.com/stergJg.jpeg
(Edit: Djeeta's in-game art clearly does not have the shorts in it: https://i.imgur.com/ANGKAEx.jpeg
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/881020/discussions/0/4208119288693710911/?ctp=52#c4208119548509630968 )
Ferry: https://i.imgur.com/1ariHjk.jpeg
These are the same designs except the originals are less covered up and the Relink versions are more covered up. Granblue Versus and Rising had the same censored costumes, except those games also had the original, uncensored costumes included, for free, so the players could use them if they so wished. As far as I know, Relink does not provide the uncensored outfits at all. So yes, this is just plain censorship this time.
Relink has the same age ratings as the Versus games by the way, so no one gets to blame CERO or PEGI or anyone else for this one.

Edit: And Narmaya as well, as pointed out: https://i.imgur.com/FZFa4ml.jpeg
Edit 2: Cagliostro has also had shorts added, this is the best still frame I could get: https://i.imgur.com/IVE0Wb2.jpeg

This isn't necessarily everything that was censored, as the edits should make clear, these are just things that we definitely know are censored so far. On the other hand, Lyria and some town NPCs are not censored and the player can look up their skirts to see underwear at any time.

Edit: An interview about preserving the original designs for Versus:

Originally posted by moulala2:

https://grandcypher.com/2020/02/12/famitsu-com-interview-with-arc-system-works-feb-20-2020-issue/

Sawada: In GBF, Metera’s costume shows a lot of skin, so Cygames’ idea was to adjust it for expansion into foreign markets and for esports considerations. So, we gave her some hotpants in her default outfit, and adjusted her outfit to lower the amount of skin shown. However, if you clear RPG Mode, you can pick her original outfit – this works for Zeta, too, you can get her original GBF costume in GBVS.

Anbe: A lot of the development staff said “We want to keep it!” and we complied.

Sawada: The lead modeling staff said that “Adding more cloth to Metera’s outfit makes her not Metera anymore. Fans of the original won’t be happy.” and wouldn’t budge (rueful laugh). But when we were discussing esports, we said “We might not want to add too many more characters who show that much skin”, so we added the original outfit as a bonus.

Pachi: FKHR (director, GBVS and GBF) wanted to keep Zeta and Metera’s original outfits, didn’t he?

Sawada: He did. When he saw the design sketches for Metera, he wrote some really sad comments. He wrote in red:

“It is with much regret that…”

(All 3 laugh)

Famitsu: So it was FKHR and the lead modeler who led the charge to make the staff’s wishes come true.

They didn't think it looked better, the execs made them do it against their will for foreign markets and unfortunately they weren't allowed to put the uncensored version in Relink for whatever reason.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Dede:

I wonder how many times you need to repeat "I'm arguing this isn't censorship" before people get you aren't pro/anti-Censorship, not pro/anti-sexualization, pro/anti-capitalism, pro/anti-moral realism. But when there are no straws to grasp I guess making them up is the next best thing.

"It's not actually censorship" isn't really all that different from "it's not actually a war, it's a time limited military action. You silly anti-war people should never have actually opposed any of this."

If you honestly, sincerely believe the former you have to put in extra legwork to make sure your view and side is separate from the "I don't like this so it isn't censorship" folks who take up the same verbiage you do. It's not fair, but it's reality.

I prefer to keep it simpler myself: Fan service is when you give the fans what they like and want to see them happy. Taking away fan service means you hate the fans. So why do you hate the fans?

[Iruru]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Dede:

I wonder how many times you need to repeat "I'm arguing this isn't censorship" before people get you aren't pro/anti-Censorship, not pro/anti-sexualization, pro/anti-capitalism, pro/anti-moral realism. But when there are no straws to grasp I guess making them up is the next best thing.

"It's not actually censorship" isn't really all that different from "it's not actually a war, it's a time limited military action. You silly anti-war people should never have actually opposed any of this."

If you honestly, sincerely believe the former you have to put in extra legwork to make sure your view and side is separate from the "I don't like this so it isn't censorship" folks who take up the same verbiage you do. It's not fair, but it's reality.

I prefer to keep it simpler myself: Fan service is when you give the fans what they like and want to see them happy. Taking away fan service means you hate the fans. So why do you hate the fans?

It turns out that not all fans of granblue read yaia doujins, sorry bruh

[Dede]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Dede:

I wonder how many times you need to repeat "I'm arguing this isn't censorship" before people get you aren't pro/anti-Censorship, not pro/anti-sexualization, pro/anti-capitalism, pro/anti-moral realism. But when there are no straws to grasp I guess making them up is the next best thing.

"It's not actually censorship" isn't really all that different from "it's not actually a war, it's a time limited military action. You silly anti-war people should never have actually opposed any of this."

If you honestly, sincerely believe the former you have to put in extra legwork to make sure your view and side is separate from the "I don't like this so it isn't censorship" folks who take up the same verbiage you do. It's not fair, but it's reality.

I prefer to keep it simpler myself: Fan service is when you give the fans what they like and want to see them happy. Taking away fan service means you hate the fans. So why do you hate the fans?

Yes please build a strawman as I complain about being strawmanned, because clearly when I say something it means whatever you want it to mean to be able to argue against it, I really hope you feel like you "Totally owned me in the marketplace of ideas" because when I said I am only arguing this case is not censorship if obviously means I hate fans.

Did you know when I said I'm not all those things it also must means I'm just like Hitler, please hit me with some more psudo-intellectual word salad to label me more negatively for others to demonise.

[Dede]

Originally posted by Iruru:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

"It's not actually censorship" isn't really all that different from "it's not actually a war, it's a time limited military action. You silly anti-war people should never have actually opposed any of this."

If you honestly, sincerely believe the former you have to put in extra legwork to make sure your view and side is separate from the "I don't like this so it isn't censorship" folks who take up the same verbiage you do. It's not fair, but it's reality.

I prefer to keep it simpler myself: Fan service is when you give the fans what they like and want to see them happy. Taking away fan service means you hate the fans. So why do you hate the fans?

It turns out that not all fans of granblue read yaia doujins, sorry bruh

NO dude when we all bought the game we were promised by Kojima himself we would get uncensored 15 year old anime girl pantie shots, and saying otherwise means you HATE the game and want artists to starve in the streets while billionaires CEO's piss on the Mona Lisa.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Dede:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

"It's not actually censorship" isn't really all that different from "it's not actually a war, it's a time limited military action. You silly anti-war people should never have actually opposed any of this."

If you honestly, sincerely believe the former you have to put in extra legwork to make sure your view and side is separate from the "I don't like this so it isn't censorship" folks who take up the same verbiage you do. It's not fair, but it's reality.

I prefer to keep it simpler myself: Fan service is when you give the fans what they like and want to see them happy. Taking away fan service means you hate the fans. So why do you hate the fans?

Yes please build a strawman as I complain about being strawmanned, because clearly when I say something it means whatever you want it to mean to be able to argue against it, I really hope you feel like you "Totally owned me in the marketplace of ideas" because when I said I am only arguing this case is not censorship if obviously means I hate fans.

Did you know when I said I'm not all those things it also must means I'm just like Hitler, please hit me with some more psudo-intellectual word salad to label me more negatively for others to demonise.

Please understand that "words you don't understand" are not the same as straw man. I am explaining the state of the argument from the other point of view to explain why you keep getting hit with this. You really need to start to learn to understand other people's arguments and where they are coming from if you actually want to have a chance of convincing people. Calling every phrase you don't understand a straw man is just a safety blanket that doesn't actually convince anyone.

That said, it's still a bad look to think fan service is bad. You should stop that too.

[Dede]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Dede:

Yes please build a strawman as I complain about being strawmanned, because clearly when I say something it means whatever you want it to mean to be able to argue against it, I really hope you feel like you "Totally owned me in the marketplace of ideas" because when I said I am only arguing this case is not censorship if obviously means I hate fans.

Did you know when I said I'm not all those things it also must means I'm just like Hitler, please hit me with some more psudo-intellectual word salad to label me more negatively for others to demonise.

Please understand that "words you don't understand" are not the same as straw man. I am explaining the state of the argument from the other point of view to explain why you keep getting hit with this. You really need to start to learn to understand other people's arguments and where they are coming from if you actually want to have a chance of convincing people. Calling every phrase you don't understand a straw man is just a safety blanket that doesn't actually convince anyone.

No when I said strawman I meant you're building up a version of me that doesn't exist in reality and argue against that rather then what I said, nobody is confused, you're just not as smart as you think you are. And I'll learn from other people making arguments when they make arguments rather then twist my words to mean something entirely different. The only here hiding under the safety blanket is you, because why engage with what I said when it's easier to make up things up I never said nor implied and throw rocks at me for what you've mad up to be upset about.

[Dede]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

That said, it's still a bad look to think fan service is bad. You should stop that too.

I'll wait for the quote of me saying Fan Service is bad

Also in a reply to Zekkn

Originally posted by Dede:

I like ecchie, the Senran games are ecchie, that's it, you're actually unhindged, I'm telling you explicitly it's not that deep and you're making MORE assumptions and doubling down. Like bro I play hentai games, on main, I even HAVE some senran game, but I never got around to playing it, I'm not gong to pretend to not know something to????? What would be the reason?

So I am really curious to see the quote now. Because you're FOR SURE not strawmanning me right?

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Dede:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

That said, it's still a bad look to think fan service is bad. You should stop that too.

I'll wait for the quote of me saying Fan Service is bad

Also in a reply to Zekkn

Originally posted by Dede:

I like ecchie, the Senran games are ecchie, that's it, you're actually unhindged, I'm telling you explicitly it's not that deep and you're making MORE assumptions and doubling down. Like bro I play hentai games, on main, I even HAVE some senran game, but I never got around to playing it, I'm not gong to pretend to not know something to????? What would be the reason?

So I am really curious to see the quote now. Because you're FOR SURE not strawmanning me right?

It's always funny when the people who are super quick to lob "15 year old girl" accusations suddenly get extremely prickly and scream "straw man" about being held to the second order effects of the things THEY say.

[Iruru]

I like how this thread is so long and the game is still one of the top selling games on steam and one of the most played games on steam and psn

Gamers rise up

[Dede]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Dede:

I'll wait for the quote of me saying Fan Service is bad

Also in a reply to Zekkn


So I am really curious to see the quote now. Because you're FOR SURE not strawmanning me right?

It's always funny when the people who are super quick to lob "15 year old girl" accusations suddenly get extremely prickly and scream "straw man" about being held to the second order effects of the things THEY say.

I'll keep waiting for the quote that I think fan service is bad. Because you're a lying liar who lied.

[play xenogears]

Thanks for pointing out the censorship, OP. I definitely won't be buying this now.

[Iruru]

Originally posted by coconut enjoyer:

Thanks for pointing out the censorship, OP. I definitely won't be buying this now.

It's all good homie i bought a couple copies

[Modest Mauser]

Originally posted by Iruru:

*poops angrily* i cant believe they made it so i cant see anime children in underwear

I don't know anything about this game. A friend sent me a link to this thread and wanted me to see fatbeards complain about not seeing childrens underwear. I'm only posting to give attention to the quoted post, because it is both cool and good. Anyway, good luck with fighting the power. One day the world will understand.

[WickedMax]

Originally posted by someone:

- lose argument
- start ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with pedo accusations and 4chan tier seethe/cope takes

Censorshills "arguments" in a nutshell.

[Archibalden]

For coomers this is a critical hit!