Granblue Fantasy: Relink

Granblue Fantasy: Relink

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BEOWULF Jan 30, 2024 @ 10:06pm
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The game is censored thanks to Sony. Time to cancel the preorder.
Imagine buying a censored game :re3nemesis:
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Sharkinbear Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
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You can't really miss something you didn't know about. I'm buying an action right. What exactly is censoring the game taking away from my experience? I'm legitimately asking. Is there a core component of the game that is being removed because of censorship? Also, what pre-order are you canceling? Just say you weren't interested in the game to begin with and move along.
Last edited by Sharkinbear; Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:01pm
Fenrir Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Sharkinbear:
You can't really miss something you didn't know about. I'm buying an action right. What exactly is censoring the game taking away from my experience? I'm legitimately asking. Is there a core component of the game that is being removed because of censorship? Also, what pre-order are you canceling? Just say you weren't interested in the game to begin with and move along.

You're going down a slippery slope here. By that logic, you should also be perfectly fine with them changing literally everything in the script. The gameplay remains the same, so nothing has changed, right?
KneeKo Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Sharkinbear:
You can't really miss something you didn't know about. I'm buying an action right. What exactly is censoring the game taking away from my experience? I'm legitimately asking. Is there a core component of the game that is being removed because of censorship? Also, what pre-order are you canceling? Just say you weren't interested in the game to begin with and move along.
So while you have a valid point, and I personally will still play a game if they change it A LITTLE, it depends on the type of censorship.

First, you have to understand why Japanese games, when ported/localized get more censorship: Is it A) because it's a trash gacha game that aims to capitalize on minors, or B) is it because of pressure of woke western publishers?

If it's the latter, you have to be more forgiving. This isn't some 70USD game cut up into pieces with Day 1 DLC.

That's why the dude above me has a very valid point: This is quite the slippery slope. There are a lot of nuances involved and need to be considered carefully. Censoring in by itself without these considerations can be a bad precedent to radical woke practices that aim to change the way the artists/authors/developers intended the game to look, feel, or sound all in the name of radical personal beliefs. It restricts artistical freedom, and that in by itself is a bad precedent as well that may creep into other aspects of the media you love, e.g.... GAMES.
Nihi Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:26am 
"The preorder" lol, Cygames is so stupid it doesn't even exist.
Treskittle Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:34am 
Originally posted by Havoc:
Originally posted by Sharkinbear:
You can't really miss something you didn't know about. I'm buying an action right. What exactly is censoring the game taking away from my experience? I'm legitimately asking. Is there a core component of the game that is being removed because of censorship? Also, what pre-order are you canceling? Just say you weren't interested in the game to begin with and move along.
So while you have a valid point, and I personally will still play a game if they change it A LITTLE, it depends on the type of censorship.

First, you have to understand why Japanese games, when ported/localized get more censorship: Is it A) because it's a trash gacha game that aims to capitalize on minors, or B) is it because of pressure of woke western publishers?

If it's the latter, you have to be more forgiving. This isn't some 70USD game cut up into pieces with Day 1 DLC.

That's why the dude above me has a very valid point: This is quite the slippery slope. There are a lot of nuances involved and need to be considered carefully. Censoring in by itself without these considerations can be a bad precedent to radical woke practices that aim to change the way the artists/authors/developers intended the game to look, feel, or sound all in the name of radical personal beliefs. It restricts artistical freedom, and that in by itself is a bad precedent as well that may creep into other aspects of the media you love, e.g.... GAMES.
I love how every singular instance of censorship is always met with "It's 100% bad" when in reality, it's really nowhere near as demonic and damning as the vocal minority thinks it is. This may be censorship, but it's also coming from the devs themselves. This isn't some malicious 3rd party coming in to ruin the game (I can't believe they'd cover up some people just a tiny bit more, the horror), this is the creators of the game trying to hit a wider audience and skirting a line.
Sharkinbear Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Havoc:
Originally posted by Sharkinbear:
You can't really miss something you didn't know about. I'm buying an action right. What exactly is censoring the game taking away from my experience? I'm legitimately asking. Is there a core component of the game that is being removed because of censorship? Also, what pre-order are you canceling? Just say you weren't interested in the game to begin with and move along.
So while you have a valid point, and I personally will still play a game if they change it A LITTLE, it depends on the type of censorship.

First, you have to understand why Japanese games, when ported/localized get more censorship: Is it A) because it's a trash gacha game that aims to capitalize on minors, or B) is it because of pressure of woke western publishers?

If it's the latter, you have to be more forgiving. This isn't some 70USD game cut up into pieces with Day 1 DLC.

That's why the dude above me has a very valid point: This is quite the slippery slope. There are a lot of nuances involved and need to be considered carefully. Censoring in by itself without these considerations can be a bad precedent to radical woke practices that aim to change the way the artists/authors/developers intended the game to look, feel, or sound all in the name of radical personal beliefs. It restricts artistical freedom, and that in by itself is a bad precedent as well that may creep into other aspects of the media you love, e.g.... GAMES.

I want to make it very clear that I'm not for censorship. I hope they aren't censoring stuff. But if I didn't know that they put more sleeves on a girl character to cover her shoulders before, how was it going to matter to me now. Why I am supposed to potentially passing a wonderful game because clothes got altered.

It's at the developers discretion. Now if you are telling me that the censoring had major narrative impacts or the game is missing core components then sure it would be a no buy. I'm not trying to tell people how to feel on any level. I'm still asking a question, what censorship is being applied and what type is it so I can make a educated decision on my purchase.

But on this forum board I've seen a lot of people give dramatic over reactions to an unknown quantity that makes me feel that they are trolling for clowns or that they weren't interested in the game much anyway and just hate being cool with people liking different things.
Shylaar Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by Treskittle:
I love how every singular instance of censorship is always met with "It's 100% bad" when in reality, it's really
100% bad.
This may be censorship, but it's also coming from the devs themselves. This isn't some malicious 3rd party coming in to ruin the game (I can't believe they'd cover up some people just a tiny bit more, the horror), this is the creators of the game trying to hit a wider audience and skirting a line.
Yeah, that's actually even worse than it coming from outside forces.
Merceal Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:04am 
I was interested in this game until I saw it was censored. Completely lost interest. Definitely not buying it censored. Add FREE uncensored skins DLC then I will buy it
Last edited by Merceal; Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:05am
Originally posted by Sharkinbear:
I want to make it very clear that I'm not for censorship. I hope they aren't censoring stuff. But if I didn't know that they put more sleeves on a girl character to cover her shoulders before, how was it going to matter to me now. Why I am supposed to potentially passing a wonderful game because clothes got altered.

It's at the developers discretion. Now if you are telling me that the censoring had major narrative impacts or the game is missing core components then sure it would be a no buy. I'm not trying to tell people how to feel on any level. I'm still asking a question, what censorship is being applied and what type is it so I can make a educated decision on my purchase.

But on this forum board I've seen a lot of people give dramatic over reactions to an unknown quantity that makes me feel that they are trolling for clowns or that they weren't interested in the game much anyway and just hate being cool with people liking different things.

I think it's just a personal matter of whether or not you want to support localization decisions like this. I think we've all noticed over the last few years that games, specifically Japanese games, have been making changes to sprites or designs to cover them up. I don't enjoy this and clearly others feel the same way. I would say it feels like censorship because these designs are being modified or censored for this game. Ultimately, for what purpose exactly? That's all I am aware of at the moment. To me, you either are for or against censorship. It's not something you can be on the fence about or pick and choose. If you don't see it that way, that's fine to. I just want games to go back to how they used to be. I'm sick of seeing every release these days changing things for no good reason and that's a perfectly valid reason to not support games like this even if they look enjoyable.
Shinoba🌸 Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:10am 
Just use mods lol
Alpharius Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:12am 
Censorship culture at it again. I'll get the game elsewhere.
SwingPunk Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Can someon link whats censored?
BEOWULF Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Shinoba:
Just use mods lol
Not gonna support a censored game.
BeerGrills Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:18pm 
Sad to hear. ♥♥♥♥ censorship.
El Chappucino Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by BEOWULF:
Originally posted by Shinoba:
Just use mods lol
Not gonna support a censored game.
Good for you! Fight the good fight! You can do it! You'll win, I know it! Oh wait, you're gonna watch people love and enjoy the game, while you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bored! Oh no!
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Date Posted: Jan 30, 2024 @ 10:06pm
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