Is this game stil grindy?

[Eclipse]

i played this game on first beta. I remember that once you reach a certain level -- i believe the 30s or 40s--- the game becomes really really grindy and it took forever just to get one to two levels. A HUGE change of pace from before.

I was wondering if it is still like that today? I am tired of mmos just being a Grind fest for a few levels. I want to hit max level so that i can focus on PVP or PVE.

in this case its pvp.

So how is the pvp if the grind is no longer there? what is the max level?

[Jackhammer (Wholf)]

Following the story and side quests 'n stuff will bring you to around 35-40 depending on what you're doing besides that. After that it's a little grindy just like Black Desert Online and you have to do daily things, dungeons, challenges, quests 'n stuff like that and a lot of PVP in my experience.

[^.ᆺ.^ Mandii]

Hello, If you join an old server, then leveling up will be greatly faster then it was when you played in Beta, This is due to the seals being broken and giving lower level players a HUGE xp boost! You can easily get up to lv69 within a couple weeks, But from 69-79 the leveling will be a lot slower, This is ofc due to the amount of XP you need, and because the XP bonus you receive decreases as you gain more levels.

Max level at the moment is Level 79, If you join an older server then this is where pvp will be more active. If you decide though to start on a new server, then you'll be able to play pvp starting at the lv49 bracket, and you'll be within the same level as other players!

[Jackhammer (Wholf)]

Originally posted by Mandii:

Max level at the moment is Level 79.

It was also 'at the moment' almost a year ago, just saying.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Rob Wolf B:

Following the story and side quests 'n stuff will bring you to around 35-40 depending on what you're doing besides that. After that it's a little grindy just like Black Desert Online and you have to do daily things, dungeons, challenges, quests 'n stuff like that and a lot of PVP in my experience.

Welp thats the reason i didnt play BDO =/
I am so tired of these grindy mmos! honestly dam.

guess ill pass this game -.-. Seems like people / devs don't learn from AION's grind fest years.

why can't mmos just let us choose to grind or not? To lvl up or not? To quest through the main story or not?

to at least take us through the main story quests without forcing us weeks/ months to lvl up so we can finally do what we want to do =/

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. the stupid grind is what pushed me away and my freinds. We couldnt even test out the pvp cuze of it. -.-

[^.ᆺ.^ Mandii]

Originally posted by Rob Wolf B:

Originally posted by Mandii:

Max level at the moment is Level 79.

It was also 'at the moment' almost a year ago, just saying.

The reason why i said at the moment is cause China is in the works of 89 patch, While we may not see this for awhile, the level cap is increasing

Originally posted by Evilkiss:

Originally posted by Rob Wolf B:

Following the story and side quests 'n stuff will bring you to around 35-40 depending on what you're doing besides that. After that it's a little grindy just like Black Desert Online and you have to do daily things, dungeons, challenges, quests 'n stuff like that and a lot of PVP in my experience.

Welp thats the reason i didnt play BDO =/
I am so tired of these grindy mmos! honestly dam.

guess ill pass this game -.-. Seems like people / devs don't learn from AION's grind fest years.

why can't mmos just let us choose to grind or not? To lvl up or not? To quest through the main story or not?

to at least take us through the main story quests without forcing us weeks/ months to lvl up so we can finally do what we want to do =/

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. the stupid grind is what pushed me away and my freinds. We couldnt even test out the pvp cuze of it. -.-

I am sorry you feel this way, Just giving my opinion here but "grinding" for levels is what allows a player to learn how the game works/ and their class, While i do agree in can be slow at times, but this is just how most MMO's are.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Mandii:

Originally posted by Rob Wolf B:

The reason why i said at the moment is cause China is in the works of 89 patch, While we may not see this for awhile, the level cap is increasing





I am sorry you feel this way, Just giving my opinion here but "grinding" for levels is what allows a player to learn how the game works/ and their class, While i do agree in can be slow at times, but this is just how most MMO's are.

This is the problem with mmorpgs these days. Company developers do not change and risk things. They rather just mimic other mmos until their game becomes to dry to farm money off other players.

Stop enforcing weeks to months worth sof grind, huge buzz kill.
Stop makiing huge level caps to suck money off players from cash shop benefits.
Bring something new to the table, not a lamer cut and paste version of nore succesful games.

Honestly, i loved the game since beta, Same like i did for skyforge. it was beautiful and i was immersed within the gameplay for both games. Like honestly, no joke. Great job in this area.

But sadly,
Once i saw that GRIND HIT. My friends instantly uninstalled. I gave it a few days to give it a chance, but the more i level, the worse it got. just no.

Which is a real shame because i really did enjoy Skyforge and Revolation online.
Also for skyforge, the weekly limits was A HUGE no-no. Sadly the pvp in that game is dead too.

Thanks for your time responding and givign your insights, but with the sound of things, i better not even download it =/.

Gl on everyone else.

[Jackhammer (Wholf)]

Every game related to these type of games is grindy.

[Pwncakex3]

Originally posted by Evilkiss:

I am so tired of these grindy mmos! honestly dam.

those words dont fit in one sentence. dont play mmos if you dont like the grind.
simple as that. mmos started like that.. and will most likely stay like that because its what makes it a mmo.

people nowadays cant even imagin how it is to grind out a boss to get a mount for about 6years BEHIND DAILY LIMITS

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Pwncakex3:

Originally posted by Evilkiss:

I am so tired of these grindy mmos! honestly dam.

those words dont fit in one sentence. dont play mmos if you dont like the grind.
simple as that. mmos started like that.. and will most likely stay like that because its what makes it a mmo.

people nowadays cant even imagin how it is to grind out a boss to get a mount for about 6years BEHIND DAILY LIMITS

they do fit in one sentence lol.

1.Not everyone PVES when they play mmos
2. For those PvP base mmos, as they claim to be, the focus on this lvling grind just won't bring any of us back to the table.
Why:
I've grinded in a ♥♥♥♥ ton of horrible mmos, even in AION. It took years of people grinding mobs because there were no quest to even get near max level. Guess why it died? No quest, too much grinding, lack of playerbase for end game content. No one pvped because the level gap between everyone in the world pvp was too hgih (which was one of the main themes of the game). Servers were kind of trash, just not worth 15 bucks a month due to everything i've stated.

Why i did not return when it became free? They did not fix what i stated above still.


Guild Wars gives you the option of questing or going straight into battle grounds.
The reasons why my pvp friends and I do not return
1. werid movement / smoothness of the fighting style.
2-- no support / healers.
3-unbalance classes..
4-poor in game custimazation for your abilities / weapons / talents.
4-GW2 nothing campred to GW1.

wow BC and WOTLK times were the best its ever going to be. It wasn't hella grindy. It was fair. Pvp was great. Lots of custimization for your talent trees and armor. Honestly, nohting will ever reach this stage in mmo history again. Not like this a least.

Like why would i spend months grinding a game that obviously will not reach this stage of world of warcraft burning crusade or lich king era?

Don't get me wrong, i enjoyed this game during the beta yeas, same for skyforge. I loveeed it.I think they are great when you look at them in just in area of creativity. But once revelation online hit that Grind spot, i was just not satisfied anymore. It felt not worth my time. it felt like a CHORE, not a GAME.

MMORPGS should not feel like a chore. Iw ant to be submerged into its fantasy world, not repeat the same thing over and over for weeks to get a lvl.

For skyforge, the weekly limits pushed me away, i came back later to check on the pvp and it is more dead and unbalance then before so this further pushed me away.

[76561198851781095]

Yes there is grind but it certainly is no where near the top of the grind list (I came from Aion so personally this game feels like it takes no time whatsoever) however, a lot of what you should focus on is gear related not strictly exp. If you are working towards other goals revolving around gear and skills you will find that your exp will build without you worrying about it too much. Dailies go a long way in contributing to this. Personally I have been going from 75 to 79 and have gotten 2 levels in the last week and a half and that is with minimal game play (I skipped scour a lot, didn't do extra quests such as adventure league, journey, some hot spring caps, didn't max essences etc) due to time limits with work.

If you are correctly using your time and participating in content outside of just the dailies on the road to greatness you quickly get exp. The thing that holds players back the most is lack of knowledge even before built in game limits.

Also as pointed out it is much faster to level on the old servers due to the seals (in game boosts for x amount of players getting to certain levels etc). Also the essence of MMO's is to work on progressing your character in multiple ways that the game has decided to include. Enjoy the journey there is tons to do that doesn't require you to instantly be fully geared and at end game

[Paroe]

Why are you.. Complaining about grinds when youre playing an asian game, where the grind IS the gameplay?

Maybe you should go look at DC universe online - its fun and doesnt have so much of a grind.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Paroe:

Why are you.. Complaining about grinds when youre playing an asian game, where the grind IS the gameplay?

Maybe you should go look at DC universe online - its fun and doesnt have so much of a grind.

who says I am playing it? o.o. I played the beta and got friends to play it too.
I stated some of the pros and some of the cons.

I am stating the truth about these MMOs coming out. I know that The grind is the gameplay for the community in Asia, but it never ends up working when sent into our zones.

But its ok, its best not to give critisim and let the companies remain oblivoius on every mmo release. So that when an mmo gets launch in our areas, it last less than a year, while sucking all your money away lol.

This company makes beautiful /creative mmos, but their models / desgin does not work in the USA at least. What does this game have to offer over those that are already establish? I don't even think it can even surpass Blade and Soul.

[Eclipse]

regardless. I'll keep an eye on this game like any other mmo i'\ve encountered. Nothing stated so far has shown me any potential to surpas those mmos that are already established.

GL and i hope steam give the company a chance to figure their mistakes further and bring the game back to life to establish its own position in the market.

Close the thread, I already gotten my answer.