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Soldner42 Apr 5, 2021 @ 6:48am
Just me, or is Control unnecessary difficult?
Played many Games, namely Hedon and Ion Fury and ofcourse Control the past 48 Hours. Im a huge Fan of Old School FPS Shooters aka so called Boomer Shooter. They are often unfair or just spike in difficulty for no reason. But its ok, its somehow still Fun cause you got a Huge arsenal and usually dont die in 2 Hits (depends on difficulty Setting) and often there are ways to regenerate Health/Armor.
But Control somehow feels wrong to me.
The Controls in Control kinda suck and feel spongy tied with KB & M as well as with XBox One Controller and tbh, the Controller felt the least wonky .Especially the shooting and the throwing stuff around Part. In heated Situations where multiple enemies and sometimes also a Boss attacks me i lose kinda fast the overview about what items get selected to throw around.
And for some reason, the Character has really little life. It isnt a Problem when fighting casual Foes, even when they come in huge Numbers.. AI is kinda dumb and rarely uses its advantages. But for some Reason Bosses are just Bullet Sponges that also have a hefty Punch to them, like.. killing you in 2 Attacks or something like that. This combined with no way to refill your Health.. or just by killing Trash Mobs.. while the Boss still attacks you feels kinda weak in regards of a real challenge.
Like for real. The Bosses are just weak in terms of Design. Too much HP, too strong, little to no mechanics aside from taking cover behind stuff that cant break away, and waiting for the dumb AI to reach you, so you can pick up health, try to take some hits at the Boss and return in cover waiting for your armed Healthpacks to arrive again.
Its.. really boring to me and kills the entire Game for me.
Aside from the Bad Boss design i kinda like the Game. Great Graphics/Effects and Envivroment as well as cool Setting, kinda reminds me of XCom or XCom berrau Declassified which i like the setting as well.
But jeez.. the Boss FIghts really kill the Flow and Fun of the Game for me.
Last edited by Soldner42; Apr 5, 2021 @ 6:51am
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spyke624 Apr 5, 2021 @ 7:00am 
What kind of tactics do you use? Do you just Leeroy Jenkins the fight or do you use powers and cover? I love Boomer Shooters too (kudos on mentioning Hedon, one of the best I've played in a while and can't wait for Episode 2) but this definitely can't be played like one.

Ex: To beat Tomassi, I had to hide behind the barriers and pot-shot his head every time. 0 damage to me.

The chaingun guy in Coolan Pumps = smack him with TK rocks and stay out of his range.
Grobbus Apr 5, 2021 @ 7:05am 
I didn't find it that difficult (just completed it and DLCs)

It was just the Tomassi and Jesse mirror boss fights that were kinda annoying. For the early-ish game I invested my points in Health and Energy which helped me sustain that damage.

Best tip I have for you is to move and dash constantly, this way they won't hit you that often.
Okami Mischief Apr 5, 2021 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Soldner42:
Played many Games, namely Hedon and Ion Fury and ofcourse Control the past 48 Hours. Im a huge Fan of Old School FPS Shooters aka so called Boomer Shooter.

Sniped to save on time. If you go into your options and scroll near the bottom you have choices like aim bots, one shot kills and pretty much immortality to get you past the hard sections.
SeansShow Apr 5, 2021 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Grobbus:
I didn't find it that difficult (just completed it and DLCs)

It was just the Tomassi and Jesse mirror boss fights that were kinda annoying. For the early-ish game I invested my points in Health and Energy which helped me sustain that damage.

Best tip I have for you is to move and dash constantly, this way they won't hit you that often.

yeah I died most to the Anchor and the Foundation main boss (who I shan't name for spoilers).

gets significantly more difficult as the game progresses imo as the enemies almost seem to scale to you, Foundation has more difficult enemies as well I'd say.

Still wouldn't say it falls into the category of very difficult though in comparison to some games, if youre speccing into launch the damage from that far outweighs guns plus barely needs aimed and pair it with energy pool and health.
aplethoraof Apr 5, 2021 @ 9:44am 
I wouldn't say it is difficult. It is engaging! It isn't braindead and does require the player pay attention to it.

If you played Ion Fury (on UV or Maximum Fury, the difficulties below are a bit on the easy side as far as games go) then you should have no issues and should be used to some of the same core tactics. I'd say this game's difficulty is slightly lower than Ion Fury on UV. Mainly because you have way more tools in this game.
(Not meaning to sound elitist, but if you didn't play Ion Fury on UV+, go back and replay it sometime! IMO UV really tied the game together, and Maximum Fury was pretty fun as well)

It does require that you:
1) Pay attention to it! If you stop paying attention in a firefight, then you'll die.
2) Don't use the same failing tactic over and over, adjust to what you are facing. If one thing doesn't work, try another thing.
3) Use your defences (dodge and shield). Before you get dodge and shield, make use of cover and keep moving when in the open.
4) Use telekinesis! Swap between shooting and TK in order to give each a change to reload. One thing to note, is you don't need to wait for the object to come to you. As soon as you "tap" it with TK, you can shoot it at an enemy. Which means you can hit enemies not directly in your line of sight with TK. This has saved me trouble quite a few times.
5) Swap between guns often. Have a mid-range and close-range/AoE option. I usually run with SMG and Shotgun (still in the early game).
Lightfooted Apr 5, 2021 @ 11:49am 
The beginning I found difficult. Once you get a variety of your powers opened up it becomes a breeze. Until then, don't rush in, use cover and use everything around you (which also applies to your powers ex. pull/grab) your environment will save your life if you take advantage of it.
Zarakaï Apr 5, 2021 @ 3:00pm 
It's not really "difficult", but it can be incredibly unbalanced.

I don't like hard games, I'm terrible at them ( can't even beat the first "boss" in Dark Souls 3 at the beginning ), but I noticed that with Control, it's all a matter of using the right tool for the right job, and if the game puts you in a situation where you don't have these tools ( the right weapon/power/skill upgrade ), you're going to ♥♥♥♥ bricks and try again and again until you git gud, while other fights will be extremely easy.

Personally I hate the big guys surrounding themselves with rocks, and throwing shards at me. They regenerate their barrier faster than I can load the pierce gun, and their shards do a ton of damage. Basically they kill me in 3 hits despite having the full health upgrades and health mods, it's insane.

I only built and upgraded the pierce gun and the basic one so I don't know if the other guns are better at dealing with them. But this is making the last mission really frustrating when there are two of them at the same time on a tiny platform...
Jaunitta 🌸 Apr 5, 2021 @ 5:11pm 
Look in the options>Game> scroll down> there is some settings in there that can help you die less and give you better assistence with weapons ammow aim assist etc.
The figuring out of the quests and what to do refer to youtube lots of help there if needed.
kaMMakaZZi9 Apr 5, 2021 @ 6:19pm 
I’m having trouble with the two big guys with rocks on the Polaris mission...it’s a breeze before that. Except when you die you have to start over! It’s infuriating!!!

It’s the cleanse the siphons objective.... any tips? I use pierce and shotgun.
Last edited by kaMMakaZZi9; Apr 5, 2021 @ 6:19pm
Jaunitta 🌸 Apr 5, 2021 @ 8:21pm 
Upgrade all your personal mods and add extra slots for weapon powers upgrade as well
Guide?
How to prepare for Cleanse the Siphons in Control
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-09-02-control-walkthrough-guide-tips-6043?page=18#section-1
Tips
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-09-02-control-walkthrough-guide-tips-6043?page=18
ModerateOsprey Apr 6, 2021 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by kaMMakaZZi9:
I’m having trouble with the two big guys with rocks on the Polaris mission...it’s a breeze before that. Except when you die you have to start over! It’s infuriating!!!

It’s the cleanse the siphons objective.... any tips? I use pierce and shotgun.

Yeah, Hiss Warped - defo f*ck those guys.

I got through that by the skin of my teeth. I used spin and the grenade launcher (can't remember its name). Also, I have upgraded my seize so I can seize two enemies. Seizing helps a lot in taking the heat off you.

Get into cover whenever possible. Strip shield with launch. Controlled bursts to whittle at health. Look for seize opportunities.
Hala Apr 6, 2021 @ 4:04pm 
I was having issues with the first boss and ended up turning on the basic aim assist and it was night and day. Despite not having issues in PC FPS games I shoot like a storm trooper in Control for some reason lol, every shot was just slightly off.
Mike Hawthorne Apr 6, 2021 @ 8:46pm 
I thought it was a little too tough too, but I'm 82, the problem I had was with no health recovery other than the little energy things on the floor.

I got to the Red Room and kept getting killed over and over.
Many times I would kill everyone except the boss guy and then he would one shot me because my health was too low.

I changed the settings so that I had a little health recovery in combat and it made all the difference. Then once I finished off all the other bad guys I could play a cat and mouse game with the boss and stay out of his range and let my health go up.

Then get in a few shots and go under cover again, etc.

This made the game more my style and fun for me.

I can't play the way I did 25 years ago. I played all the first 4 Tomb Raider games from start to finishing without saving or dying. Also did it with out healing through the entire game except between levels, that was automatic.

That used to be a thing.
Last edited by Mike Hawthorne; Apr 6, 2021 @ 8:50pm
OceanHaze Apr 6, 2021 @ 11:03pm 
Found once you start getting the iv and v weapon mods the game goes ez mode
YoungerDryas Apr 6, 2021 @ 11:27pm 
I been blowing through the game pretty easily so far. I used a mod for more dmg against shields with the shatter weapon and it's been killing everything.
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