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GLaDOS Aug 28, 2020 @ 5:50am
Texture issues
Should I bother with this game for gameplay / story on the basis that no matter the graphics settings I choose (DX11/12, and all options tweaked), textures don't seem to load properly.

Via the RTX 2080ti, the framerate is good and many areas look good, even with all settings on max but sometimes it just looks awful. Don't know if it gets worse later and would make me regret crossing the refund limit?

https://ibb.co/m6FGjQb
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Foxiol Aug 28, 2020 @ 9:25am 
I'm having texture stream issues as well. Playing at 4K with DLSS enabled or disabled, at 1440p or 1080p, it doesn't matter, textures goes low res up to the point everything looks blurry. (when I said everything, that includes your character, floor, walls, pictures, objects, etc)

PC Specs, CPU Ryzen R9 3900X, 32GB RAM, GPU Gigabyte RTX2080 Super OC, the game is installed in a Crucial P1 NVMe SSD. I'm going to try clone the game files into a regular HDD to see what happens.

Funny thing is that I played the game when it released like a year ago and finished it at 100%, the version didn't come with any DLC or DLSS implemented. Played it with an Asus Strix GTX970 OC on my old PC at 1080p, never had a single issue with texture streaming, perhaps the only thing that I remember to see is pictures on the wall always needed a second to load (like in your picture here), but not the entire textures in the world itself as of now.

It is unplayable in this state but I'm going to see if there is a solution. But sure this is a bug that needs to be fixed by the developers.
Sunsetter Aug 28, 2020 @ 9:29am 
It's an engine issues; if you can play with it, refund the game
Trash_Sombra Aug 28, 2020 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by GlaDOS:
Should I bother with this game for gameplay / story on the basis that no matter the graphics settings I choose (DX11/12, and all options tweaked), textures don't seem to load properly.

Via the RTX 2080ti, the framerate is good and many areas look good, even with all settings on max but sometimes it just looks awful. Don't know if it gets worse later and would make me regret crossing the refund limit?

https://ibb.co/m6FGjQb
if you pause the game it will load the texutres dx12 makes the tuxtures load slower in dx11 loads them fast but still has issues
Tony72495 Aug 28, 2020 @ 9:51am 
That's just how it is, it happens in the console versions too. I beat the game completely on the EGS, and it's most noticeable with pictures like that. Most environments load just fine.
kinuyasha Aug 28, 2020 @ 10:17am 
I was having this issue too and the textures were never ever loading in no matter how long I waited. After hours of troubleshooting I found the culprit on my machine though, and it's a doozy:

The issue was my NVMe drive. Something about the game engine seems unable to deal with the read/write speeds of an NVMe SSD because as soon as I moved the game onto a mechanical drive the issue disappeared completely and got replaced with regular pop-in that took a second at most to resolve.

I have no idea why this happened but I hope this helps at least more than just me.

Going to try moving the game to a SATA SSD now and see if that helps the pop-in without re-breaking the textures.

EDIT: SATA SSD still has pop-in issues at 1440p on an RTX 2070 Super but it's honestly so much less bad than playing the game in PS1 Texture Mode that I'm not going to spend too much time worrying about it.
Last edited by kinuyasha; Aug 28, 2020 @ 10:22am
Foxiol Aug 28, 2020 @ 11:46am 
Well the "solution" for me is to play in DX11 as it seems all texture streaming issues are gone. Going to play some more but in DX12 it is unplayable, textures won't load at all or if they load after a minute or so the game starts to break (literally FallOut 76 levels of broken mess).

I'll miss DLSS 2.0 and RTX features since you can't have those in DX11 but I can play at 4K downsampling to 2k (1440p) while looking slightly blurry, but everything maxed still getting solid 60FPS.

So much for the "Ultimate Edition"... :steamsad:

PS: Tried in a regular SSD and it was the same, it made no difference from NVMe (2.000MB/s) to regular SSD (500MB/s).
Last edited by Foxiol; Aug 28, 2020 @ 11:48am
Pyrion Aug 28, 2020 @ 2:46pm 
Gonna try moving my game install to a 7200rpm drive to see if that really fixes it. It's not the weirdest fix to a game misbehaving that I've dealt with this month...
Last edited by Pyrion; Aug 28, 2020 @ 2:46pm
Foxiol Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:07pm 
Can confirm, on my end the problem was DX12 all alone.

Played for 3 hours straight in DX11 all maxed at 4K downsampled to 2K for the frames obviously (RTX2080 Super), and not a single texture streaming issue. The game now plays the same way it did a year ago. Sometimes the only thing that you see loading are the pictures on the walls if you are not so close to them, but it is the only thing. All textures in the world are loading without issues in DX11.

As I said before, not having DLSS 2.0 is a shame because it ran better than downsampling and Ray Tracing was not an option unless you don't care that much abour frame rates. So yeah...DX12 is broken in this game. Even I can tell that shadows and some particle effects are not working properly in DX12 compared to DX11.
Krag Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:14pm 
I played it with RTX effects and the old DLSS when it released a year ago and didn't have this issue, today the game is pretty much unplayable with all these low res textures showing up everywhere I go. Such a shame because I really don't feel like playing this without either DLSS or raytracing when it worked fine before.
.VM8RA Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Foxiol:
Can confirm, on my end the problem was DX12 all alone.

Played for 3 hours straight in DX11 all maxed at 4K downsampled to 2K for the frames obviously (RTX2080 Super), and not a single texture streaming issue. The game now plays the same way it did a year ago. Sometimes the only thing that you see loading are the pictures on the walls if you are not so close to them, but it is the only thing. All textures in the world are loading without issues in DX11.

As I said before, not having DLSS 2.0 is a shame because it ran better than downsampling and Ray Tracing was not an option unless you don't care that much abour frame rates. So yeah...DX12 is broken in this game. Even I can tell that shadows and some particle effects are not working properly in DX12 compared to DX11.

I had noticed this with the pictures, but I thought it was just one of the settings that downgrades images that you are not close to.

my card is just a 1660 OC 6GB, so playing with the specs on medium. I'll try playing in DX11 though.
Foxiol Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by VM8RA:
I had noticed this with the pictures, but I thought it was just one of the settings that downgrades images that you are not close to.

my card is just a 1660 OC 6GB, so playing with the specs on medium. I'll try playing in DX11 though.

Yeah, give it a try with DX11 you just miss what you can't really use. Even I with a powerful enough GPU can't enjoy those features entirely and trust me...the game will be the same but you are going to forget about the issues. Just play and enjoy. ;)
Foxiol Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Krag:
I played it with RTX effects and the old DLSS when it released a year ago and didn't have this issue, today the game is pretty much unplayable with all these low res textures showing up everywhere I go. Such a shame because I really don't feel like playing this without either DLSS or raytracing when it worked fine before.

Yeah same here, the game worked well with that old build but DLSS was garbage since image quality was so much degraded compared with the new DLSS 2.0...Now it is unplayable in this state with DX12. Such a shame. But I repeat it again...DX11 and forget about it. The game is awesome, hope they can deliver a patch to make those things work properly again.
Pyrion Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:45pm 
Welp, nope, moving it to a regular old magnetic hard drive didn't fix it. *sigh*
marsHm311oW Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by VM8RA:
my card is just a 1660 OC 6GB, so playing with the specs on medium. I'll try playing in DX11 though.

Why you play on medium if you could easly play on ultra? I have the same card and play on maxed out.
mcgeehe Aug 28, 2020 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by marsHm311oW:
Originally posted by VM8RA:
my card is just a 1660 OC 6GB, so playing with the specs on medium. I'll try playing in DX11 though.

Why you play on medium if you could easly play on ultra? I have the same card and play on maxed out.

Higher frame rates my guy.
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Date Posted: Aug 28, 2020 @ 5:50am
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