Do riders of the swamp benefit from both Rana and beast research?

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They have status as both Rana and as beast, so I assume they benefit from both rana and beast research. Rats on other hand don't seems to have any status so I guess they would not benefit from any techs except those explicit about rats?

[Jack Blaze]

Look at the Tags they have

Each unit has its own set of tags denoting what type of unit they are. Rana units are gonna have either the Rana creature type or Beast creature type

Arleon will be Human or Faey

Barya will be Human or Harima

Loth will be Human, Undead or a single Beast outlier in the form of the Rats

So, whatever tags they have denotes which Research buff they get. If a unit has Rana & Beast tags, it should benefit from those research types. If it doesn't. then some kind of bug's going around

[JellyPuff]

Yes and yes. Riders to get the best of both worlds, while Rats get none. Still a good melee troop, though if you can get it's stacks high enough, especially since then triggering their Berserk on purpose, before making your move won't matter much if at all.

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Tremors also have the Rana + Beast tag, also it have the musican tag which I don't think is used for anything, but all the factions have one musican which have a global ability, but I don't know what the muscian tag itself have any purpose.

It do cost a lot of resources to research both beast and rana techs as well as the unit specific ones but I guess the riders get pretty powerful at that point.

[Jack Blaze]

Origineel geplaatst door JellyPuff:

Yes and yes. Riders to get the best of both worlds, while Rats get none. Still a good melee troop, though if you can get it's stacks high enough, especially since then triggering their Berserk on purpose, before making your move won't matter much if at all.

Oh, I'm not saying Rats are bad or that them not benefitting from the Loth researches is all that detrimental, just saying they're an outlier to how all the other faction units are tagged. On contrary, I personally always tend to go for Rats over Legionnaires when I'm playing Loth

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Tremors also have the Rana + Beast tag, also it have the musican tag which I don't think is used for anything, but all the factions have one musican which have a global ability, but I don't know what the muscian tag itself have any purpose.

It do cost a lot of resources to research both beast and rana techs as well as the unit specific ones but I guess the riders get pretty powerful at that point.

The Musician tag isn't really used for anything from what I've observed while playing SoC, might be something being left for a later content expansion

Honestly, I usually tend to research the Tag specific buffs last and prioritise getting the relevant Unit specific buffs for the composition I'm running first, since they offer far more noticeable and useful buffs in my experience

I'd even go as far as saying you're not really going to need the slight edge those tag specific research buffs. The only exception being the research buffing Initiative since more of that stat on a unit is always 100% good to get