[SPOILERS] ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AJ

[Partilis]

So when he does not need to shoot, he does.
But when he DOES he backs out? TF?
ik its abt "clem teaching him" but ♥♥♥♥ it i got so pissed when Violet died coz of ♥♥♥♥♥ tenesse and AJ not shooting
idk if she would die anws, but thats how it was for me

[ARSM™]

It’s cause you didn’t put your faith in him

[Soheilll]

[SANJUYON]

he wont trust himself anymore if you don't put trust him to make the right calls.

[Dethlane]

Remember that Clem means everything to AJ and she's kinda between old sister and young mom to him. Plus that getting-kicked-after-killing-Marlon experience still being fresh. And you made Clem tell him not so long before that scene that he ain't ready to make hard calls (which obviously includes deciding if someone should be killed or not). So, like, what did you expect? And yeah, if you trust AJ back in the cave, Violet survives.

[Partilis]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Remember that Clem means everything to AJ and she's kinda between old sister and young mom to him. Plus that getting-kicked-after-killing-Marlon experience still being fresh. And you made Clem tell him not so long before that scene that he ain't ready to make hard calls (which obviously includes deciding if someone should be killed or not). So, like, what did you expect? And yeah, if you trust AJ back in the cave, Violet survives.

i agree
tbh i just didnt like AJ from the start, even if it ment a similar Lee/Clem scenario

[pininghi]

Don't get me started on Violet. Violet is BAE. I am still not over her death caused by that douche of Tenn. I mean, I understand and all, but Tenn did not a single thing right in the entire game.

I thought "no AJ, I want to stop you being a murderer without a cause. You should kill only for survival. So, I make the hard calls, and you shoot when you feel immediate danger". Aaaaand nope.

Btw, the choice that does not give AJ "trust", does not do anything good, or am I wrong?

[Partilis]

Originally posted by pininghi:

Don't get me started on Violet. Violet is BAE. I am still not over her death caused by that douche of Tenn. I mean, I understand and all, but Tenn did not a single thing right in the entire game.

I thought "no AJ, I want to stop you being a murderer without a cause. You should kill only for survival. So, I make the hard calls, and you shoot when you feel immediate danger". Aaaaand nope.

Btw, the choice that does not give AJ "trust", does not do anything good, or am I wrong?

a man of TRUE WORDS. exactly my thoughts. tenn... what a douche

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by pininghi:

Btw, the choice that does not give AJ "trust", does not do anything good, or am I wrong?

Yeah. AJ loses confidence, Violet dies and that douche Tenn keeps going (until he screws up with no one there to sacrifice themselves for him). No good coming out of not trusting AJ

[pininghi]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by pininghi:

Btw, the choice that does not give AJ "trust", does not do anything good, or am I wrong?

Yeah. AJ loses confidence, Violet dies and that douche Tenn keeps going (until he screws up with no one there to sacrifice themselves for him). No good coming out of not trusting AJ

Damn...but the things AJ said inside the cave about the pleasure and power really scared me.
The game clearly wants you to make of AJ a crazy kiddo with happy trigger finger.

When you make him attack the raider and he bites her, he got no consequences. Or when you make him kill Lilly. It just seems the game pushes you to make AJ... act.

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by pininghi:

Damn...but the things AJ said inside the cave about the pleasure and power really scared me.
The game clearly wants you to make of AJ a crazy kiddo with happy trigger finger.

You gotta remember that he is still a kid and thus prone to emotional shifts. And since he was born into an apocalyptic world, he doesn't know "usual" world's rules and his main concern is survival of those he cares about and himself. But even with all the stuff going on he still follows Clem's guidance and remains a decent person.

[pininghi]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by pininghi:

Damn...but the things AJ said inside the cave about the pleasure and power really scared me.
The game clearly wants you to make of AJ a crazy kiddo with happy trigger finger.

You gotta remember that he is still a kid and thus prone to emotional shifts. And since he was born into an apocalyptic world, he doesn't know "usual" world's rules and his main concern is survival of those he cares about and himself. But even with all the stuff going on he still follows Clem's guidance and remains a decent person.

Emotional shifts are not the same as pleasure of killing. I mean, I understand your point of view but if he is not stopped while you can he is going to grow up into that idea.

But we surely are mistaken, imo, on one crucial point: we tend to evaluate the decisions in the game based on our (flawed) current society and moral. So, we can't have a clear picture of the feelings involved. But AJ still scared me... And F for bae Violet.

[Dethlane]

Originally posted by pininghi:

And F for bae Violet.

Nothing stops you from replaying and saving Violet. Personally I haven't seen any of scenes she comes to harm and I never will, her living relatively nice life with Clem in Castle Violet is hella good enough for me.

[Partilis]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by pininghi:

And F for bae Violet.

Nothing stops you from replaying and saving Violet. Personally I haven't seen any of scenes she comes to harm and I never will, her living relatively nice life with Clem in Castle Violet is hella good enough for me.

real wise talk

[RedFishBlueFish05]

Louis is my G!

[pininghi]

Originally posted by Dethlane:

Originally posted by pininghi:

And F for bae Violet.

Nothing stops you from replaying and saving Violet. Personally I haven't seen any of scenes she comes to harm and I never will, her living relatively nice life with Clem in Castle Violet is hella good enough for me.

Yeah my boy, I really wanted Violet and Clem to live "happily" in Castle Violet too in the first playthrough. Guess I will save her then!