Did anyone actually like James? *spoilers*

[MindfulOcean]

At first I thought his ideas about walkers were kind of neat and that he might just be a little different, but Episode 3 changed all that. The fact that he thought the walkers were people was ridiculous, and the fact that he made Clem visit them in the barn so she could understand how "gentle" they are was absurd. I thought it was pretty clear that he manufactured his fantasy about the walkers and peaceful living to cope with the horrific things he did prior to breaking away from his group.

I don't think there were any right or wrong answers about how to raise AJ, but everything James said and did was ludicrous. No AJ, don't shoot the woman who cut your friend's tongue out and who is planning on making you all slaves. She isn't a threat anymore. Seriously? And then in the cave he tries to steal AJ so he can raise him "correctly". I kept expecting him to pop up again and start trouble. He struck me is as being way more dangerous than the people from the Delta.

Allow me to extend the topic a bit: did anyone find James or the raiders sympathetic? I hope at least a couple of people with different views post, because right now I can't see the other side of the issue. Raiders and crazies would be the biggest possible threat sin the world of the Walking Dead, and I don't think it would be possible to tolerate either of them and live very long.

[Frostbite]

Sole point of my love towards dystopian games/worlds such as this, is to see how different people cope with difficulties of this new world they are living in, to see different adaptation, seeing the very evolution which has brought us until here, at work. Always a fascinating thought to get lost in for me. Thats why i literally worshipped James ideas. Using the very thing which is a real threat to anyone, as your blanket through cold cruel nights, as your weapon and shield through dangerous situations, was plain genius and awesome.

Im the kind of person who doesnt go and blatantly judge someone just because he/she is thinking different then me. After all, what do you know about what anything is, right? As everyone, you are too, making things up as you go. Why not listen to different ideas once in a while, when you can? You dont have to convert your ideas right away(in fact noone is forcing you to do so as well), even just listening and trying to understand counts.

And i really loved the scene in the barn, i dont think you can just disagree with this right away, as a person(Clem) who has been through real fine ♥♥♥♥ for almost her entire life with these very walkers, at least for a few minutes, seeing them in such a calm and harmonic state, was straight up beautiful(After minerva scene, my second favorite).

I really liked James character and ideas, still though, as Clem said however i also want to believe that, we cant know for sure there are still something inside of them. It would be too much of a religious thing to just accept this and live your whole life according to it. That wasnt my Clem, but i needed to teach Aj that he needs to respect other people's ideas as well as his own.

I did as i promised. Even though it cost me my Violet as well as James. I did as i promised.

[Junior95]

James was the only interesting side character in my opinion because he was so different from the rest and he is a lot like Hershel from the show. A good guy who is just delusional.

I didn't let AJ kill Lily so he died a very stupid way but i liked that you can go against James' wish and have AJ kill Lily then tell James that words are not enough to save people he then realises that he was wrong and tries to save Clem and AJ from the walker herd.

The problem is he never makes it to the ending or you never see him again so he was yet another wasted character.

[ARSM™]

引用自 Junior95：

James was the only interesting side character in my opinion because he was so different from the rest and he is a lot like Hershel from the show. A good guy who is just delusional.

I didn't let AJ kill Lily so he died a very stupid way but i liked that you can go against James' wish and have AJ kill Lily then tell James that words are not enough to save people he then realises that he was wrong and tries to save Clem and AJ from the walker herd.

The problem is he never makes it to the ending or you never see him again so he was yet another wasted character.

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[Junior95]

引用自 A Rather Slender Man™：

引用自 Junior95：

James was the only interesting side character in my opinion because he was so different from the rest and he is a lot like Hershel from the show. A good guy who is just delusional.

I didn't let AJ kill Lily so he died a very stupid way but i liked that you can go against James' wish and have AJ kill Lily then tell James that words are not enough to save people he then realises that he was wrong and tries to save Clem and AJ from the walker herd.

The problem is he never makes it to the ending or you never see him again so he was yet another wasted character.

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[Irrapture]

引用自 A Rather Slender Man™：

引用自 Junior95：

James was the only interesting side character in my opinion because he was so different from the rest and he is a lot like Hershel from the show. A good guy who is just delusional.

I didn't let AJ kill Lily so he died a very stupid way but i liked that you can go against James' wish and have AJ kill Lily then tell James that words are not enough to save people he then realises that he was wrong and tries to save Clem and AJ from the walker herd.

The problem is he never makes it to the ending or you never see him again so he was yet another wasted character.

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[Junior95]

引用自 Irrapture：

引用自 A Rather Slender Man™：

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[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Guy was completely out of his mind from PTSD and had created his own reality to cope with it but he was still interesting character and I`m glad I ordered A.J. to shoot that ♥♥♥♥♥ who I knew could never be trusted so James lived in the end.
Managed to prevent A.J. to become complete psycho by teaching him to be responsible killer so win/win.

[Frostbite]

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

Managed to prevent A.J. to become complete psycho by teaching him to be responsible killer so win/win.

As if responsible killing is not psycho for a little kid. I really dont understand people like you.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

引用自 Frostbite：

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

Managed to prevent A.J. to become complete psycho by teaching him to be responsible killer so win/win.

As if responsible killing is not psycho for a little kid. I really dont understand people like you.

Consider in what kind of world he grew up and where he is gone live. You are trying to apply your current world moral values.

[Frostbite]

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

引用自 Frostbite：

As if responsible killing is not psycho for a little kid. I really dont understand people like you.

Consider in what kind of world he grew up and where he is gone live. You are trying to apply your current world moral values.

If you ditch your current world moral values then there is no hope for going back to how the things were, noone would like to live in fear from everyone forever, well not unless you are one of those tyrants who feeds on that chaos like Lily, which is an entirely different matter. Everytime you kill, you make the world better for the likes of Lily, even if the person you kill is Lily. ''We dont kill''.

[Lady Bloodwell]

I liked him but he is kind crazy.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

引用自 Frostbite：

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

Consider in what kind of world he grew up and where he is gone live. You are trying to apply your current world moral values.

If you ditch your current world moral values then there is no hope for going back to how the things were, noone would like to live in fear from everyone forever, well not unless you are one of those tyrants who feeds on that chaos like Lily, which is an entirely different matter. Everytime you kill, you make the world better for the likes of Lily, even if the person you kill is Lily. ''We dont kill''.

Havent you paid attention to TWD universe, in the end dead always win and "We dont kill" crowd has been all killed off long ago unless they lived in some sheltered community like Alexandria before Rick Grimes got there and that doesnt usually work out well in the end anyway.

[Frostbite]

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

Havent you paid attention to TWD universe, in the end dead always win and "We dont kill" crowd has been all killed off long ago unless they lived in some sheltered community like Alexandria before Rick Grimes got there

Its just ''We dont kill'', not ''We cant or wouldnt be able to kill even if we wanted to'', like Batman, for example. You can have both.

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

and that doesnt usually work out well in the end anyway.

''Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.''

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

引用自 Frostbite：

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

Havent you paid attention to TWD universe, in the end dead always win and "We dont kill" crowd has been all killed off long ago unless they lived in some sheltered community like Alexandria before Rick Grimes got there

Its just ''We dont kill'', not ''We cant or wouldnt be able to kill even if we wanted to'', like Batman, for example. You can have both.

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

and that doesnt usually work out well in the end anyway.

''Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.''

A.J. could have ended up way worse. Look at the flowers A.J.

[Junior95]

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：

引用自 Frostbite：

As if responsible killing is not psycho for a little kid. I really dont understand people like you.

Consider in what kind of world he grew up and where he is gone live. You are trying to apply your current world moral values.

Well actually no matter what choices you make AJ still ends up becoming a psycho kid because he killed Marlon when he was no threat, he wanted to stay and see Abel die or turn

and then he blames Clementine for James' death by stopping AJ from becoming a murderer. And finally he kills Tenn if you trust him with making the "right" choice when he could've just shot the zombies during the bridge scene and nobody had to die.

Sure James was a weird kid but he is right about AJ losing his humanity killing at such a young age he'll grow up believing that it's the only way to solve problems and might even become a danger to Clementine when he gets bigger and stronger then her ultimately proving Louis right when he asked her what she teached this kid cause she has no control over him and is a terrible parent.