It Hitman 3 a PERMANENT exclusive to Epic?

[Hamburglur]

I refuse to give money to the CCP.

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it's 12 months exclusive but there's no guranatee that it's coming to steam.

[thebaconson]

I refuse to give money to the CCP mean while I will happily play another other game with the unreal engine that is owned by EPIC

[licker98]

Originally posted by GayBen:

I refuse to give money to the CCP.

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[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by licker98:

Originally posted by GayBen:

I refuse to give money to the CCP.

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... on Vladimir needed cash to finish his trumphmansion

[Hot Ross Buns]

Originally posted by GayBen:

Originally posted by EA Latium:

It's a one year exclusive, it'll come to Steam.

Thank God. I'm so UNBELIEVABLY pissed off about Humankind and Old World being exclusive. I'm not even a Steam fanboy. I just refuse to give money directly to a country with concentration camps.

Yeah, IOI claims the deal with Epic Games lets them "have more independence" but based of the deals with Sony and Tencent, this is obviously not the case. They care about their bottom line and revenue.

Not the people who have every other hitman title on steam, or have supported them since 2004. IOI left all the real fans behind, in favor of the children who clamor for Tencent's blood money.

[bobyblobfish]

Originally posted by Skeletor:

No. Even Agent 47's hair grows. You can't see it. Nothing is permanent :papyrus:

as in nothing is permanent, or there will always be nothing

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by PaulGR:

Originally posted by Uitxer:

China has done way less evil things to the world than the United States.

I think the China Virus that goes around these days all over the world just put China in Evil Place No.1 now.

Yeah, it's not like Hong Kongers were protesting prior to the pandemic right?
Seriously, it's not right of China for what they're trying to do to Hong Kong. I say the CCP is more of a threat than the American government but we're getting off-topic here.

[knighttime]

everybody says it will be on steam in one year. even though IO put the game on epic i still like IO they are a team of brilliant video game developers.

[Jillas]

People keep saying the same thing on and on - by purchasing games on Epic you support CCP, Epic is bad, 'cause it belongs to Tencent, China owns Epic and so on... Well, if you really think that Epic isn't an American company then how do you explain their announcement to release 4 "Kingdom Hearts" games in the next month? https://youtu.be/3ZVYrccchwA?t=202 You do know how CCP hates Winnie the Pooh? and yet this game will be sold on Epic Games Store, but you know where that game will never be sold? Here - https://store.steamchina.com/ Valve is now doing business with CCP exactly the same way as Epic Games, so if you really are against China, I guess you should stop using Steam from now on.

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except 40% of valve isn't owned by tencent.

doing business with china isn't the same as being owned by it.

[Vorzioule]

Originally posted by You do know how CCP hates Winnie the Pooh? and yet this game will be sold on Epic Games Store, but you know where that game will never be sold? Here - https://store.steamchina.com/ Valve is now doing business with CCP exactly the same way as Epic Games, so if you really are against China, I guess you should stop using Steam from now on. [/quote:

This is half true. Steam has a chinese version which has very few games on it due to CCP cencorship. This should not effect us at all and if it starts to there will be mass backlash. However Tencent owns 40% of epic and has a history of giving information to the CCP. Steam is not owned by a chinese company but must comply with their laws hence the special chinese version of steam.
Kingdom Hearts is also censored in china when it comes to the honey bear. https://gamerant.com/kingdom-hearts-3-winnie-pooh-censorship/

[Jillas]

Originally posted by serious:

except 40% of valve isn't owned by tencent.

doing business with china isn't the same as being owned by it.

That's only because Valve Corporation is not a publicly traded game company, if they were, I bet Tencent tried to purchase all 100%! And I think it actually makes it even worse for Valve, if Epic doesn't have a choice of who will purchase their stocks, and it happened that way that it was a Chinese Tencent, but Valve did have a choice, they could stay away from any association to China, and yet they became partners with Perfect World and CCP, good job!

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Originally posted by Jillas:

Originally posted by serious:

except 40% of valve isn't owned by tencent.

doing business with china isn't the same as being owned by it.

That's only because Valve Corporation is not a publicly traded game company, if they were, I bet Tencent tried to purchase all 100%! And I think it actually makes it even worse for Valve, if Epic doesn't have a choice of who will purchase their stocks, and it happened that way that it was a Chinese Tencent, but Valve did have a choice, they could stay away from any association to China, and yet they became partners with Perfect World and CCP, good job!

you can bet all you want, doesn't make it a reality.

the reality is epic is owned by china, while valve is owned by valve.

[Jillas]

Originally posted by Vorzioule 🌴:

This is half true. Steam has a chinese version which has very few games on it due to CCP cencorship. This should not effect us at all and if it starts to there will be mass backlash.

I know it won't effect us, I never said it would, I just made a comparison that both Valve and Epic Games will censor their games to their Chinese users, while the rest of the world won't be effected by that. Meaning that Tencent has no power over Epic to enforce the censorship on any other countries in which Epic Games does business.

But I must acknowledge that I was wrong about KH3 not being available in China, the game was censored instead of being banned like I thought. So I guess there's a chance for it to appear on Chinese Steam if it's not permanently exclusive to EGS.

Originally posted by serious:

you can bet all you want, doesn't make it a reality.

the reality is epic is owned by china, while valve is owned by valve.

There's almost no difference in how they both operate, see what I wrote above about the censorship.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Jillas:

Originally posted by serious:

except 40% of valve isn't owned by tencent.

doing business with china isn't the same as being owned by it.

That's only because Valve Corporation is not a publicly traded game company, if they were, I bet Tencent tried to purchase all 100%! And I think it actually makes it even worse for Valve, if Epic doesn't have a choice of who will purchase their stocks, and it happened that way that it was a Chinese Tencent, but Valve did have a choice, they could stay away from any association to China, and yet they became partners with Perfect World and CCP, good job!

Epic isn't publicly traded either. All shares of epic were sold willingly to investment partners. Even the two board of directors that tencent has on the epic board were part of that deal.

Epic isn't being randomly taken over through public trading, it's only giving shares to partners they want in private investment deals.

What's funny though is everyone still harping on tencent giving epic half a billion dollars over half a decade ago, but no one talking about the multiple billions of dollars from even more recent investor partnerships.

The danger of egs behavior isn't the tencent deal, it's the monopoly they want to control the market and their willingness to do it with anti consumer tactics.

Steam isn't a monopoly, there's been healthy competition and if steam remained at the top it's been from providing players what they want and the others compete by offering niche services and alternate curating packages.

What is egs doing to compete? Paying developers to not be on steam? Breaking up franchise collections for people who want sets in one place? Not offering services that people want?

It's an inferior service competing purely with bully tactics instead of quality. I don't have to look beyond their crap behavior as a company to not be interested in buying from them.

Who they partner with beyond that is just typical sociopathic business decision-making.