Out of Curiosity: First Mission.

[-TWI- Ales D]

Greetings!
Basically i have already complete this mission several times [not that hard, first time i just shoot the ♥♥♥♥♥ from the second floor and run away from a window..still had to kill some guards to get my way out],.. point is i'ma a perfectionist in this kind of game...

Now, best way i found is to use cloroformio in the whiskiee glass in their room.
Get out fast and shoot her.
Problem is whenever he drinks the wiskiee with chloroform immediatly everyone is in allert for intruder.

Did i missed something or it's simply a bug?
I mean: she is still watching the ocean,but she knows he is been poisoned even before she is actually watch at him.

[Talon]

Before triggering the scene that makes the target and her guards arrive to the location, you can look around the house for some rat poison and put it in the honey that Orson uses to prepare Reynard's tea. She should, hopefully, go the bathroom where you can kill her and stash her body in a closet. Afterward, it's a matter of getting out of the house without being seen.

Will also note that you can use the rat poison on Orson's drink and have him get sent to the bathroom instead. From there you can go do what ever you're trying to do in the mission. People getting sick doesn't send NPCs into an alert state.

[-TWI- Ales D]

Originally posted by Talon:

Before triggering the scene that makes the target and her guards arrive to the location, you can look around the house for some rat poison and put it in the honey that Orson uses to prepare Reynard's tea. She should, hopefully, go the bathroom where you can kill her and stash her body in a closet. Afterward, it's a matter of getting out of the house without being seen.

Will also note that you can use the rat poison on Orson's drink and have him get sent to the bathroom instead. From there you can go do what ever you're trying to do in the mission. People getting sick doesn't send NPCs into an alert state.

Rat poison simply acts exactly as chloroform does: well, not "exactly" because they start to puke .. but in terms of allarm is the same.

Found a way in the end anyhow: just wait till they go to sleep doing simply ... nothing... than kill her in her bad and find your way to your boat evading guards.
They are not alarmed so it's quite easy too.

Boring but effective.

[Talon]

Originally posted by -TWI- Ales D:

Originally posted by Talon:

Before triggering the scene that makes the target and her guards arrive to the location, you can look around the house for some rat poison and put it in the honey that Orson uses to prepare Reynard's tea. She should, hopefully, go the bathroom where you can kill her and stash her body in a closet. Afterward, it's a matter of getting out of the house without being seen.

Will also note that you can use the rat poison on Orson's drink and have him get sent to the bathroom instead. From there you can go do what ever you're trying to do in the mission. People getting sick doesn't send NPCs into an alert state.

Rat poison simply acts exactly as chloroform does: well, not "exactly" because they start to puke .. but in terms of allarm is the same.

Found a way in the end anyhow: just wait till they go to sleep doing simply ... nothing... than kill her in her bad and find your way to your boat evading guards.
They are not alarmed so it's quite easy too.

Boring but effective.

I DID NOT say that rat poison acts like chloroform. That said, it doesn't alert NPCs at all. When they're done puking they'll just return to what ever pattern they normally go through.

(Added) Just tested it and chloroform in Orson's drink does trigger a Search state when he gets knocked out by it and Reynard gets a tad spooked but otherwise stands in place. Rat poison sends him somewhere on the ground floor where he vomits but no Search state is triggered.

(Granted, this was done on the drink on the ground floor he takes a sip out of but still. I was testing what happens when he gets poisoned by rat poison and when he gets knocked out by chloroform.)

[Talon]

I spent some uncomfortable amount of time watching Orson and Reynard. There's two guards right under the balcony that she goes to when she and Orson are done watching the news. Killing Reynard there could result in the guards seeing it, especially if she's talking to them.

Straight up, better to wait for her to move from there before killing her and use rat poison on Orson's drink so he's not in the room when Reynard is killed. After that is either dealing with Orson the old fashioned way or just sneaking past him as he vomits and taking out, or distracting, the guard that is stationed just in front of the bedroom door.

Will also note that knocking out Orson with the chloroform triggers a scene where Reynard puts her guards on high alert. This scene does not trigger when Orson goes off to puke in the bathroom. In fact, she just ends up saying some generic lines that various NPCs have when they see that someone is sick. No alert, no search state, and she'll just go to bed and wait on Orson to be done being sick.

[supersand]

there are 3 different types of poison and they aren't the same. Emetic poison means they will seek somewhere to throw up, sedative will make them go unconcious on the spot, and lethal will make them die on the spot. Bodies found from poison will count as an accident kill so it doesn't matter if their corpse is found. Any accident kill is fine for bodies to be found, and this makes items like Propane Flasks much more valuable.

Also for the starting mission, she can randomly choose between Sugar and Honey. You can either keep trying until you get it right or just poison both. It sounds like you just are using the wrong poison OP and that your problem will go away using rat poison instead.

[Talon]

Originally posted by supersand:

there are 3 different types of poison and they aren't the same. Emetic poison means they will seek somewhere to throw up, sedative will make them go unconcious on the spot, and lethal will make them die on the spot. Bodies found from poison will count as an accident kill so it doesn't matter if their corpse is found. Any accident kill is fine for bodies to be found, and this makes items like Propane Flasks much more valuable.

Also for the starting mission, she can randomly choose between Sugar and Honey. You can either keep trying until you get it right or just poison both. It sounds like you just are using the wrong poison OP and that your problem will go away using rat poison instead.

Reminds me, is there lethal poison in the Hawke's Bay mission? Or is that something you have to bring in yourself when you have it unlocked?

[supersand]

Originally posted by Talon:

Originally posted by supersand:

there are 3 different types of poison and they aren't the same. Emetic poison means they will seek somewhere to throw up, sedative will make them go unconcious on the spot, and lethal will make them die on the spot. Bodies found from poison will count as an accident kill so it doesn't matter if their corpse is found. Any accident kill is fine for bodies to be found, and this makes items like Propane Flasks much more valuable.

Also for the starting mission, she can randomly choose between Sugar and Honey. You can either keep trying until you get it right or just poison both. It sounds like you just are using the wrong poison OP and that your problem will go away using rat poison instead.

Reminds me, is there lethal poison in the Hawke's Bay mission? Or is that something you have to bring in yourself when you have it unlocked?

I'm pretty sure you have to bring lethal poison but i'm not sure, check the Hitmaps page for it. Hitmaps is a great resource for this game and I reccomend using it (thou it will spoil item locations so play missions blind first and then use Hitmap to plan your master mode SA/SO strat or to complete challenges)

[Talon]

Originally posted by supersand:

Originally posted by Talon:

Reminds me, is there lethal poison in the Hawke's Bay mission? Or is that something you have to bring in yourself when you have it unlocked?

I'm pretty sure you have to bring lethal poison but i'm not sure, check the Hitmaps page for it. Hitmaps is a great resource for this game and I reccomend using it (thou it will spoil item locations so play missions blind first and then use Hitmap to plan your master mode SA/SO strat or to complete challenges)

Apparently, there is. Didn't notice there was lethal poison in the upstairs bathroom. Guess it was placed there so those playing the demo can do all of the assassination methods.

(Added) The poison is in a locked storage cabinet on the wall by the bathtub. Explains why I never saw it.

[-TWI- Ales D]

Now, emetic on sugar/honey and kill her in the bathroom has been my first strategy.
Point is [ ad i already tested three times] she simply start to puke where she is and that is.
Which leads me to another question: which difficulty level are you guys plaing at?
I'm at Professional.
If it isn't because of that, so i really donnow what to say.
I have Completed the mission killing only her and not being detected now anyhow.. it's enough to me.

[supersand]

Originally posted by -TWI- Ales D:

Now, emetic on sugar/honey and kill her in the bathroom has been my first strategy.
Point is [ ad i already tested three times] she simply start to puke where she is and that is.
Which leads me to another question: which difficulty level are you guys plaing at?
I'm at Professional.
If it isn't because of that, so i really donnow what to say.
I have Completed the mission killing only her and not being detected now anyhow.. it's enough to me.

she should go to a trash can or bathroom to vomit where you can ambush her by herself, they aren't supposed to start puking on the spot so idk what to say, it should be like that on all difficulties

whenever I try this strat or just use the Sieker on her, she always goes to the nearby bathroom by herself. I'll go test the honey/sugar emetic poison method I guess.

edit: I tried it on Professional, poisoned both her sugar and honey and waited, she did go to the nearby bathroom for an easy drowning. Keep in mind they may linger in their spot if you bump them or if they are trying to say something.

[Talon]

Originally posted by supersand:

Originally posted by -TWI- Ales D:

Now, emetic on sugar/honey and kill her in the bathroom has been my first strategy.
Point is [ ad i already tested three times] she simply start to puke where she is and that is.
Which leads me to another question: which difficulty level are you guys plaing at?
I'm at Professional.
If it isn't because of that, so i really donnow what to say.
I have Completed the mission killing only her and not being detected now anyhow.. it's enough to me.

she should go to a trash can or bathroom to vomit where you can ambush her by herself, they aren't supposed to start puking on the spot so idk what to say, it should be like that on all difficulties

whenever I try this strat or just use the Sieker on her, she always goes to the nearby bathroom by herself. I'll go test the honey/sugar emetic poison method I guess.

edit: I tried it on Professional, poisoned both her sugar and honey and waited, she did go to the nearby bathroom for an easy drowning. Keep in mind they may linger in their spot if you bump them or if they are trying to say something.

I think the hard part of that one is just getting down into that bathroom. Though assuming an opening does eventually present itself before she stops vomiting... or a few tossed coins might be enough to create an opening to slip in to deal with her.