Isle of Sgail - Extract the Constant SA/SO?

[donald.grape]

I was wondering whether it's possible to escort the Constant to the exit point Suit Only. I know it's an optional objective, but I'm curious whether anyone has done this. There are no videos of this on Youtube.

[racist]

I don't see how. He never leaves the restricted areas of the map and will become alerted if he sees you in a restricted area without an allowed disguise so you can't approach him in a suit. I guess you could lure him with coins all the way to a public area, but that would take forever and be very difficult.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by donald.grape:

I was wondering whether it's possible to escort the Constant to the exit point Suit Only. I know it's an optional objective, but I'm curious whether anyone has done this. There are no videos of this on Youtube.

I haven't bothered to attempt this, but it should be possible

The constant moves through at least one room with no one else in it, the sitting area with the radio in it, just off to the side of the dome models, he passes through it on his way to talk with Block.

That area can be infiltrated suit only and the twins killed fairly easily suit only from that spot. One by luring her in with the radio and the other in the hallway below it, dropping a chandelier on her head (or using a propane tank accident)

You could then use the kill switch to convince him to walk with you.

One trick that may work on walking him out is that you might even be able to be seen, get warned about trespassing and then very casually allow the guard to walk you out without it becoming hostile

I know that's the area I would try this from if I was going to attempt it, but then I also don't think it's worth the effort. You would get nothing for it.

EDIT: Followed my own suggestion, It's not possible, read next post

[Kunovega]

Update: Well, apparently my suggestion does not work; though I was right that you can get him alone suit only, he just doesn't respond with you in a suit

Here is the first sister dead SA/SO, knocked out in front of the radio lure, I snapped her neck and placed her and her knocked out body guard into the box in that room, kill switch retrieved
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1660977577

Here is the second sister dead SA/SO, dropped a chandelier on her head in the hallway beneath that room
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1660977598

Here I went back up into that sitting room with the radio and the constant will not let you talk to him even with kill switch in hand, basically so long as he remains an enforcer you can not initiate the conversation that lets you walk him out, he just becomes alert, runs off and gets a guard
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1660977630

So apparently you need to be in a disguise that he is not an enforcer on. Same chain of events but grabbed the elite guard disguise from the first sisters bodyguard that I'd left in the box in that room and he comes quietly and follows you out
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1660986412

So unless there is some location where you could approach him suit only where he is not an enforcer, the option does not appear to exist (and I don't know of anywhere he goes that you can be suit only and him not be an enforcer)

So despite being able to get him alone SA/SO he simply can't be talked to suit only since the option does not appear (and yes I tried from behind without alerting him first, there was no G to talk, so I stepped in front of him and he ran off alerted)

Reloaded and switched to the guard outfit only after the sisters were dead and you can talk to him now that hes not an enforcer

[Mr_Faorry]

He never walks into an area that isn't a trespassing area so you can't approach him to show him the kill switch without a disguise breaking SO.

If you knock him out he runs to the helicopter where Lucas grabs him after he's been woken up, obvious issue is a found body breaks SA. Does using the sedative poison on someone cause their 'body found' to not count against SA? Because if so you could find a way to poison his drink with the sedative and do it that way.

[Misanthrop]

Its doable, but requires to much other prework. Do it like Kunovega did. When you got the 2 sisters go to the pipe close to the bridge that leads to the constants private tower. Go up that bridge and knock out every guard in that tower from bridge height.

Once the constant comes u can knock him out too and carry him to the heli extract on the roof of the constants tower.

So atleast 3 guards. 2 on the top floor and 1 with the buttler on the bridge floor. If youre good u can leave the guards standing outside in peace.

Second floor of that private tower has 2 storage bins for 4 bodies too.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by MyWay:

Its doable, but requires to much other prework. Do it like Kunovega did. When you got the 2 sisters go to the pipe close to the bridge that leads to the constants private tower. Go up that bridge and knock out every guard in that tower from bridge height.

Once the constant comes u can knock him out too and carry him to the heli extract on the roof of the constants tower.

So atleast 3 guards. 2 on the top floor and 1 with the buttler on the bridge floor. If youre good u can leave the guards standing outside in peace.

Second floor of that private tower has 2 storage bins for 4 bodies too.

The problem with that suggestion is you do not "carry" a body, therefore you can not exit a mission with one. You could drag him up there and get an SA/SO but you would not be extracting with him, you'd be leaving him on the ground knocked out

Which is something you could do anywhere with him knocked out

What was asked is SA/SO while walking him out and while I was right about you being able to isolate him; it appears it's not possible to talk with him while in suit-only

Dragging him out isn't an option but after messing with it for a bit I can't find a suitable location to speak with him and have him agree to leave with you since anywhere I've been able to approach while he's awake, he's also an enforcer (my original suggestion assumed you could talk to him from behind without triggering him being alert, but the game simply doesn't allow it)


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Alternative: You could probably speak with him as a guard and then break line of sight, this causes him to say "I'll meet you at the dock", at that point you could probably switch back to suit. It's not a true suit only solution though and I won't personally test that version since it's needlessly long to walk him out like this anyway

[donald.grape]

Thanks for your hard work, Kunovega! I was wondering whether there was some crazy way of doing this, but it looks like it's impossible. BTW, if you knock the Constant out, Diana will tell you to exit and that Lucas would "take it from here". So I assume that this means that you failed to extract him and Lucas will have to do it himself.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by donald.grape:

Thanks for your hard work, Kunovega! I was wondering whether there was some crazy way of doing this, but it looks like it's impossible. BTW, if you knock the Constant out, Diana will tell you to exit and that Lucas would "take it from here". So I assume that this means that you failed to extract him and Lucas will have to do it himself.

That would be the assumption since you can not actually "carry" a body, no matter where you dragged him he would remain on the ground when you leave

Basically unless you want to do the full walk-him-out you might as well just ignore him entirely

I've walked him out a few times in various disguises, but having replayed this dozens of times now I generally only kill the sisters and leave