Game Term Meanings.

[FuryFight3r]

What does 'Spotted' specificly mean? also does 'Eliminate only the target' mean I can knock guards out without it counting as eliminating them?

Working on Nightcall classics now and doing the Sniper Assasin one, however I myself didnt get 'Spotted' however a guard did hear the gunshot, this for some reason didnt count, so Im asking if I can knock that guard out before taking the shot will that count for the classic challenge?

[Kunovega]

They mean exactly what they sound like

Spotted: you were actually seen committing a crime or action that is not allowed

Eliminate = Kill; kill only the target. Knock outs are not lethal.

Hearing noises or being suspicious makes them go into various search patterns, but unless they actually see you, you weren't spotted. Depending on the circumstances suspicious can make you much more likely to be spotted, especially if you are doing something that would make them walk over and attempt to question you. 47 will not speak to guards and they escalate quickly from suspicious to spotted unless you get away from them before being confronted (of course in Hawke's Bay you wouldn't even be questioned, you would just be spotted, this is something to keep in mind for locations where you can walk around legally but your actions might make you suspicious)

Sniper Assassin is pretty straight forward, don't kill anyone but the target, don't be spotted or seen doing anything. Read the challenges exactly as stated. Such as Silent Assassin requires no bodies to be found (knocked out or dead) where as Sniper Assassin doesn't care about bodies found.

You could in theory complete all of the classic challenges in one run if you follow every rule from every challenge:

Master Difficulty, Kill the target with a sniper rifle, do not let the body be found (hide it and all knock outs), don't change clothes at any time (start with suit and remain in suit), don't get spotted at any time. Follow every rule and the entire classics list is completed at every difficulty all in one attempt.

[FuryFight3r]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

They mean exactly what they sound like

Spotted: you were actually seen committing a crime or action that is not allowed

Eliminate = Kill; kill only the target. Knock outs are not lethal.

Hearing noises or being suspicious makes them go into various search patterns, but unless they actually see you, you weren't spotted. Depending on the circumstances suspicious can make you much more likely to be spotted, especially if you are doing something that would make them walk over and attempt to question you. 47 will not speak to guards and they escalate quickly from suspicious to spotted unless you get away from them before being confronted (of course in Hawke's Bay you wouldn't even be questioned, you would just be spotted, this is something to keep in mind for locations where you can walk around legally but your actions might make you suspicious)

Sniper Assassin is pretty straight forward, don't kill anyone but the target, don't be spotted or seen doing anything. Read the challenges exactly as stated. Such as Silent Assassin requires no bodies to be found (knocked out or dead) where as Sniper Assassin doesn't care about bodies found.

You could in theory complete all of the classic challenges in one run if you follow every rule from every challenge:

Master Difficulty, Kill the target with a sniper rifle, do not let the body be found (hide it and all knock outs), don't change clothes at any time (start with suit and remain in suit), don't get spotted at any time. Follow every rule and the entire classics list is completed at every difficulty all in one attempt.

I think once again my game might have glitched, as I was definitley not seen, remained in my suit, only killed target and funnily enough Orson and the Main Gaurd were not looking her direction at the time so I got the unoticed kill also, it seemed to be the guard near where I was shooting from, he again didnt see me at all, but he heard the shot and went to investigate (I ofc bolted as soon as the kill was confirmed - still not being seen what so ever) but still failed, I did the run again, taking out that guard and it failed again as a guard from further away herd this time, so I did the run once again knocking out the 2 guards and doing the other tasks and got all the challenges in 1 run as the kill was once again unoticed for some time. so my theory is that 'Spotted' also means 'Heard' as I can guarentee the guards didnt see me, but they definitley herd the shot, when no one herd the shot It was completed without fault.

[FuryFight3r]

Unfortunatley Im stuck again on the games poor choice of visuals and words mixed together.. Im being asked to Kill target with Samuri in 'your' suit. but it shows an Image of the wet suit, Im assuming the term 'Your Suit' means 47's Signature Suit? If so wouldnt you think the game would just state that rather than being cryptic about it? All images shown for the Shinobi Tasks are shown as wearing the Wet Suit, am I just looking to far into it and confusing myself or does anyone else agree that some challenges are not as well explained as others (or the visual Image twists your thoughts)?

EDIT: I checked against the 'Classic' Tasks and they too say 'Your Suit' so I'm just going to assume its reffering to '47's Signature Suit'.

For those wondering what rock I've been living under, this is the first few times I've played a hitman game in nearly 20 years, so to me (somewhat a newcommer) 'Your Suit' could be the Bright White one for all I know... but yes I understand now that its the Signature suit, for newcommers its just very confusing and misleading with the Images that go with it, me personally If I were designing a game and reffering to a specific Item, I would call the item by it's name, I wouldnt assume that everyone must know what the Item is called and cut a few seconds out of coding time to use an abbreviation.

[Kunovega]

There's 3 terms to recognize:

Outfit: Anything 47 can wear, there's two types: suits and disguises

Suit: Anything actually labeled a "suit" that can be selected while starting a mission, that includes every default suit for every location and all of the unlocks with the word suit in them.

Disguise: Outfits that let you blend in at locations, by default you need to find them while playing the mission, but you can unlock starting disguises for most locations from mastery, they are chosen by choosing a starting location that is pre-infiltrated with that disguise.

Anything in the suit menu is a suit. It labels them correctly on the planning screen, it sill state suit or disguise in the overlay on the image, so it's actually really clear in game.

This is a suit, it's got a descriptor that says suit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064712613
This is a disguise, it's clearly labeled a disguise:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064712638
This is the suit menu, it even states "suits" at the top:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064712671

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Don't be afraid to come back to these later after you have more unlocks. Just as example, doing Nightcall classics 100% every challenge in a single run even on master is trivial with a silenced sniper and a little understanding of the games options. It's only difficult while you are still learning the basics and are yet to unlock useful tools to make it easier for yourself.

Example:
https://youtu.be/CsUMr0Rubt0

[FuryFight3r]

Thanks so much for the very detailed response, all that information will most certainly come in handy, but I am reffering to the Challenges when it says 'Your Suit' I understand now that it means 47's Signature Suit It was just very confusing at the start before i knew what the 'standard' suit was aswell as the photos making me even more confused as they are displaying the wetsuit not the Signature Suit.

Like displayed below:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064755221

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by FuryFight3r:

Thanks so much for the very detailed response, all that information will most certainly come in handy, but I am reffering to the Challenges when it says 'Your Suit' I understand now that it means 47's Signature Suit It was just very confusing at the start before i knew what the 'standard' suit was aswell as the photos making me even more confused as they are displaying the wetsuit not the Signature Suit.

Like displayed below:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064755221

"your suit" is as I explained already, anything in the suit menu. You are over thinking it and making it far more complex than it really is. I'd suggest looking at the screenshots I gave you, it tells you very clearly during setup what is or is not a suit versus a disguise. The game uses these words accurately. Suit is any suit, disguises are clearly marked disguise, not suit.

They don't even exist in the same lists, the suit menu is nothing but suits. Disguises are only available if they are tied directly to an infiltrated location and appear from the starting location choice.

https://youtu.be/5A-HwMymawo

If you failed it was for some other reason

[FuryFight3r]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by FuryFight3r:

Thanks so much for the very detailed response, all that information will most certainly come in handy, but I am reffering to the Challenges when it says 'Your Suit' I understand now that it means 47's Signature Suit It was just very confusing at the start before i knew what the 'standard' suit was aswell as the photos making me even more confused as they are displaying the wetsuit not the Signature Suit.

Like displayed below:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064755221

"your suit" is as I explained already, anything in the suit menu. You are over thinking it and making it far more complex than it really is. I'd suggest looking at the screenshots I gave you, it tells you very clearly during setup what is or is not a suit versus a disguise. The game uses these words accurately. Suit is any suit, disguises are clearly marked disguise, not suit.

They don't even exist in the same lists, the suit menu is nothing but suits. Disguises are only available if they are tied directly to an infiltrated location and appear from the starting location choice.

https://youtu.be/5A-HwMymawo

If you failed it was for some other reason

Oh I understand now, so all it's meaning by 'Your Suit' is to not change into a disguise and remain in 'your suit' to complete the task, sorry about that.. That would be the best way for me to understand (for starters anyway) would be for the challenge to say "Don't change into a disguise", or even if you said "all suits in your collection is a 'Your Suit'." but again I was just looking at it entirely the wrong way, I really appreciate all the help, thank you.