HITMAN™ 2

HITMAN™ 2

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haris_fsk May 28, 2021 @ 3:01pm
How Good is Hitman 3
How Good is Hitman 3 compared to it's previous Installments?
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space May 28, 2021 @ 3:04pm 
i dunno, ask on epic.
Kunovega May 28, 2021 @ 3:49pm 
I've played it on both PC and Xbox since I have friends that have it.

Hitman 3 was a waste of time and not worth anywhere near full price, I'm glad I didn't pay for it.

The main missions are mostly short, only a couple are interesting, there's far less content in each and two of them are insultingly short with the final one being even less content than the free prologue. Compared to 1 & 2; 3 is an insult at full price and the DLC prices are downright predatory.

I say this as a previously rabid Hitman fan who has over 1000 hours put into 1 & 2 each.. each not total. 2000+ hours across the previous two games and I can't say 3 held my interest for more than about 10 hours, total.

Even the music flat out puts me to sleep. I literally fell asleep twice playing it, that's how routine, uninspired and flat out boring 3 is compared to the previous 2.

As someone who has no problem saying that Hitman (2016) + GOTY pack is easily worth $60 or more and Hitman 2 (2018) to me is not only worth the full $100 price tag (for gold edition) but I'd have paid for it twice because there was that much content and quality put into it.

Having played through Hitman 3, it's worth maybe $30 and I'm being generous. I can honestly say I got more enjoyment and more play time out of the $40 expansion pass (included with Hitman 2 gold) than I did from the entire Hitman 3 line up of missions. (and the expansion pass has more missions by itself even if 2 of them were snipers and 4 of them were recycled locations)

Hitman 3, no bonus missions, no special assignments, just 6 little missions, 2 of which are pathetically short. You're paying for 4 real locations all of which are smaller and with less story content than the previous games, both of which had more content at better prices. And you weren't bent over to pay more for stupid escalations, they were free.

Try to justify it all you want, the content and quality of Hitman 3 is pathetic when compared to the previous two for the price it was released at. The only reason Hitman 3 even feels like a real game is that it can include all of the previous two games inside of it (assuming you own that content)

And please note: my complaints in this post have absolutely nothing to do with EGS. I've played Hitman 3 on Xbox and then again on PC through EGS, my opinion of the game lacking has nothing to do with which platform it's on.

Hitman 3 is it good? It's OK, but it should have been a $30 expansion pack for 2, because that's what it feels like and quite frankly its only value to me will be as sleeping aid, I've honestly never been put to sleep so fast by a game before in my life.
Duckilous May 28, 2021 @ 6:09pm 
It's alright, it's not a bad game at all but it's disappointing.
It's not the definitive version of the entire Hitman trilogy it should've been.

I mean we should have:
- All HITMAN 1 and HITMAN 2 content including challenge packs and escalations brought over to HITMAN 3 already (if you owned the previous games of course).
- Ghost Mode and other multiplayer modes finished.
- Master Difficulty is like HITMAN 2016's Professional Difficulty.
- Outbreak completed. (Gamemode/campaign that's been cut since HITMAN 2)
- More Bonus Missions.
- Unused items, suits and weapons are implemented.
- Some mechanics from Absolution (Blood Detection, Human Shield, and Point Shooting) are restored.
- Proper Offline Mode with progression.
- Accents for every location.
- Better contract creator.
- VR Controllers supported and VR mode is available for PC.
- Return to Ort-Meyer's asylum instead of a small linear train for HITMAN 3's final mission (or more than 6 locations perhaps).

But no, instead we got cut content that were in the previous games:
https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/woa-lost-content/3498

There's items that can't be unlocked in HITMAN 3 unless you import your H2 save file:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/l1xqdi/list_of_currently_unobtainable_items_in_hitman_3/
But not everything from your H2 progress gets carried over:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/l1f55s/progress_carryover_not_everything_carries_over/
If you're a completionist, I hope you enjoy doing escalations again.

Graphics seem to have been downgraded even though the PC version should retain these graphical effects as a high graphics option:
https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/hitman-3-graphics-vs-hitman-2016/6139

We lost some features such as swapping shoulder camera sides, illegal item frisking, and camera surveillance tied to certain areas rather than the entire map now:
https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/shoulder-view-button-broken/2643
https://old.reddit.com/r/HiTMAN/comments/l6wc6r/why_did_ioi_get_rid_of_this_feature_illegal_item/
https://youtu.be/IPuNoB_uFUc
The only post-release content you'll get is escalations, elusive targets, and also paid escalations. Don't expect any DLC that comes with new locations and actual missions.
I'm afraid that by the end of the game's support, HITMAN 3's content still wouldn't be on par as HITMAN 2's content.

Seeing that you don't own any of the latest Hitman games, what I said might be too much for a new player and you might not even understand it, but I assure you that the game is good and the new content is fun. It's just that as a fan who owns the previous games, HITMAN 3 should've been much better than it is. I suggest buying HITMAN 3 on sale and as for the Seven Deadly Sins DLC, it's certainly not worth the full price.
Last edited by Duckilous; May 28, 2021 @ 6:13pm
algame May 28, 2021 @ 7:37pm 
H3 was a minimum viable product so they can focus on the new Bond IP and put all their money and time to that. The actual levels are great but the content and gameplay is the bare minimum and as mentioned above the post launch support is pathetic.
TheOrangeBox May 29, 2021 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by algame:
H3 was a minimum viable product so they can focus on the new Bond IP and put all their money and time to that. The actual levels are great but the content and gameplay is the bare minimum and as mentioned above the post launch support is pathetic.

Watch out - Amazon has bought James Bond and will turn that into a Disney mass market pop corn kid's galore . . .
TheOrangeBox May 29, 2021 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by Free Kashmir and Palestine:
How Good is Hitman 3 compared to it's previous Installments?

Better play H1&2 and forget H3 till is given away for free on Epic - and not even then !
Kunovega May 29, 2021 @ 1:23am 
Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:
Originally posted by algame:
H3 was a minimum viable product so they can focus on the new Bond IP and put all their money and time to that. The actual levels are great but the content and gameplay is the bare minimum and as mentioned above the post launch support is pathetic.

Watch out - Amazon has bought James Bond and will turn that into a Disney mass market pop corn kid's galore . . .

This shouldn't change anything for ioi or the Bond game they have in development. Just because a company is sold does not invalidate the contracts that already exist. Anything they have in place, Amazon has to honor or risk a lawsuit for breach of contract. So ioi is protected for the duration of whatever contract they have in place, whether it's a number of years or fixed number of games I don't know. The future of any series ioi might want to do could be altered unless the contract covers that too, but the current game wouldn't be effected unless Amazon wants to risk a lawsuit.
Wintermute May 29, 2021 @ 4:51am 
Below the level of H1, above the level of H2 in map quality. However, utterly not worth it at full price due to overall content being less.
Kunovega May 29, 2021 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by Wintermute:
Below the level of H1, above the level of H2 in map quality. However, utterly not worth it at full price due to overall content being less.

above the level of H2? ROFL

thanks for the laugh, the train doesn't even beat the free prologue and the other 5 are no better than the worst of h2
asheer150 May 29, 2021 @ 5:32am 
Heard it was a money grab, but as they continuously add more content overtime, the price will be understandable then.
Wintermute May 29, 2021 @ 6:26am 
Originally posted by Kunovega:
Originally posted by Wintermute:
Below the level of H1, above the level of H2 in map quality. However, utterly not worth it at full price due to overall content being less.

above the level of H2? ROFL

thanks for the laugh, the train doesn't even beat the free prologue and the other 5 are no better than the worst of h2
I don't like Santa Fortuna, and absolutely loath Mumbai. So yes, expansions aside, H2 is the worst for me. Not a single map coming close to Hokkaido or Berlin. Still a great game though. And its features in H1 maps were extremely welcome.
Last edited by Wintermute; May 29, 2021 @ 6:27am
Kunovega May 29, 2021 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by asheer150:
Heard it was a money grab, but as they continuously add more content overtime, the price will be understandable then.

They aren't adding content over time. They are adding escalations that you have to buy for $5 each. There's no new missions or notable free content being added at all and there won't be any expansions with new missions or locations.

To put that in perspective: Hitman (2016) had only one paid expansion for $20 you got an additional 4 missions and 3 escalations (remixes of existing locations), but you also got a free holiday hoarders mission and 50 free escalations. Also notable is that anyone who bought the game after the expansion release got it included free (as it remains sold together for $60, original buyers may have paid $80). Along with the prologue the total content for the game was 16 missions across 7 locations with 50+ escalations. (8 missions in the main story with 4 bonus* missions and 4 in the patient zero mini-campaign)

Hitman 2 was $60 for the base game and $40 for the expansion pass, for a total of $100 and your total (new) content (without counting h1 missions) was: 16 missions with 34 escalations across 11 new locations (That's 8 missions in the main story with 3 sniper-only missions and 5 bonus* missions (additionally some but not all of the h1 escalations were also carried over if you have the legacy pack, while all the missions carry over)

Now compare Hitman 3: $60 for the base game + $15 for deluxe + $35 sins pack = $110. Total content? 6 missions in 6 locations + $5 per escalation. There's no bonus missions coming, there's no holiday missions coming, there's no sniper missions coming, there's no notable free content coming, the number of free escalations is on track to be around 12. It's a fraction of a game compared to the previous two and you're paying $5 each for escalations that used to be free. Also of note in the main missions, the final one is the smallest mission in the entire trilogy and has zero challenge, it's a 3 minute long corridor shooting gallery with a handful of guards to shoot (no score penalty) and a final target that is zero effort, he just stands up and waits for you to kill him. The final mission is so stupidly short and pointless that it would have been no difference if it were a cut scene rather than you bothering to play it out. It's an insult to even call it a mission, which means you're paying for 5 actual missions/locations. Notably you are also no longer a hitman at any point during the H3, you're on a personal vendetta, Which makes H3 along with Absolution the two worst stories in the franchise as you aren't even bothering to be a Hitman. H1 and H2 stories weren't great either as they lead into this, but at least H1 started out with you not knowing you were being dragged into it, you were doing contracts as a hitman they were just manipulations to provide Lucas with opportunities to kill his own targets (like drawing out Jordans father to the funeral due to you killing Jordan, etc.), but still, from 47's perspective he was working.

There's no way to justify the price tag on H3, there's no more notable content coming, they are charging you a ridiculous price for escalations that used to be free and the story is a huge let down, and the last mission is a flat out insult to the fanbase and the franchise as you don't even finish out being a good stealthy assassin, you just shoot a few idiot guards and then kill a guy who stands there waiting to die.

So no, the game won't be any great value when it comes to steam, it will just be the smallest part of the trilogy at the highest price with the least content and the worst leg of the story.

I had 1000+ hours in H1, I have 1000+ hours in H2. Both were worth their price and more.

I've played H3 through twice, I've spent a grand total of 10 hours with it. I've exhausted the content and grown bored with it. The music literally put me to sleep it's the most routine in the trilogy. H3 by itself would be barely worth it as a $30 expansion pack to H2, instead it's $110 for less than half the content of the previous two games in the trilogy.

People defending it are freaking blind to the abuse or still riding the thrill of being able to play H1 and H2 inside of H3. H3 wouldn't even feel like a stand alone game without the previous two being playable in it (not that they were free, you paid for those games ~ or you bought them as DLC, buying H2 as a legacy pack for H3 is $100 and H1 is $30, bringing your total cost to $240 (or more if you paid higher prices to own these prior to buying H3).

So excuse me, but if you are going to judge the full game on the basis of having the entire trilogy inside of it, Then if you paid full retail pricing that was somewhere between $240 to $300 (depending on how you purchased them all) and the $110 portion for H3 is the smallest amount of content in the total package.

I got H1 for a bit of a discount, I could have paid full price and been satisfied. I did pay full price for H2 and don't regret it for a second. H3? Until it's under $30 it can rot on the vine, because that cash grab half baked monkey garbage of an excuse for a game is not worth anywhere near the $110 they are asking for it.

H2 had value at $100, H3 is more expensive for less than half the content, there's no excuse for defending it, there's no notable game play changes, you're playing 5 missions that play the same as what you already have and the 6th is barely worth existing and you think more content is coming? Yea, what used to be free escalations at $5 each, thanks but no thanks.

(*labeled in game as: bonus / special-assignment / holiday)
Raider Deci May 29, 2021 @ 8:56am 
Curious myself, thx for the info. Sounds like better off just waiting until it drops on steam with a 50% discount, if past 1 year deals from epic are anything to go by
Last edited by Raider Deci; May 29, 2021 @ 8:58am
space May 29, 2021 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by Raider Deci:
Curious myself, thx for the info. Sounds like better off just waiting until it drops on steam with a 50% discount, if past 1 year deals from epic are anything to go by
watch it be put on steam at full price.
Kunovega May 29, 2021 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by space:
Originally posted by Raider Deci:
Curious myself, thx for the info. Sounds like better off just waiting until it drops on steam with a 50% discount, if past 1 year deals from epic are anything to go by
watch it be put on steam at full price.

Based on their current predatory pricing I wouldn't be surprised if they add another escalation unique to steam, call it the steam special edition and raise the price.

Originally posted by Raider Deci:
Curious myself, thx for the info. Sounds like better off just waiting until it drops on steam with a 50% discount, if past 1 year deals from epic are anything to go by

Not everything comes over with a discount, or at 50% when they do have one. That used to be the trend, but it's becoming less and less common.
Last edited by Kunovega; May 29, 2021 @ 9:33am
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