The new enforcer in the bar area in Paris....

[Amphetamine]

So this guy wasn't in the original version of the map. He patrols the large bar and outdoor area beside the bar and becomes suspicious, then will shoot you, for being in the public bar area in your default suit. It doesn't make any sense and breaks gameplay rules that were previously established by the game.

I hope it's a bug, because if not then it's a stupid and illogical change with no reasoning behind it that I can see.

[Kunovega]

You're playing professional, sometimes there's enforcers that are looking for people who stand out, even in the regular suit

That's not the only map with enforcers who will spot you through the suit

Play casual if you can't handle it

[Amphetamine]

It's not an issue with difficulty, it's the fact that it's wrong. With the exception of Mumbai, which is explained, the game has set up a series of rules about your behaviour and the AI's behaviour. Being able to spot you for no reason like that is an illogical change.

[InstableMonster]

What rule is it breaking ? They say enforcers can spot you. This enforcer is spotting you.

[Johnny Two Tips]

Yeah that was weird to me too. That and they changed the surgeon outfit when going in Hokkaido as Jason Portman.

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

What rule is it breaking ? They say enforcers can spot you. This enforcer is spotting you.

He means that guy detects you even if you're wearing the default outifts. It's not a restricted area so it's weird.

[Shoebsy]

It makes so much more sense to me. Considering Agent 47 literally stands out like a sore thumb no matter what you're doing.. And it's my opinion of course, but I rarely ever failed in Hitman 2016, It would take an explict challange to have me stumped. While I know the layout of everything still.. At least it's not giving me a free pass.


It's also been well established that the ICA and other agencies are used by the rich and powerful people we target. So it totally makes logical sense they would have people trained to spot people 'blending in'.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Johnny Two Tips:

Yeah that was weird to me too. That and they changed the surgeon outfit when going in Hokkaido as Jason Portman.

Technically that change was made in season 1 a few months after launch, that was changed even before the GOTY edition came out

That it carries over into Hitman 2 is unfortunate, but the change was not made here

It was a truly stupid nerf decision as even the dialogue says you are about to meet a surgeon and it was the only regular surgeon outside of the OR

You can still get a disguise of one by using a trick to lure one into the back stem cell room, but its a cheap work around that ignores the simple fact that one of the storylines was supposed to set you up to get that disguise

[Johnny Two Tips]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by Johnny Two Tips:

Yeah that was weird to me too. That and they changed the surgeon outfit when going in Hokkaido as Jason Portman.

Technically that change was made in season 1 a few months after launch, that was changed even before the GOTY edition came out

That it carries over into Hitman 2 is unfortunate, but the change was not made here

Oh I know. I didn't play the game after they patched that so it was weird doing it the first time and not being able to get into the "surgeon only" area.

[- PatteDeFruit -]

That enforcer change was made to encourage you to use new crowd blending/foliage system.

I was against it at the beginning...but it sort of makes sense that some people could spot you no matter how well you're hidden.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

You're playing professional, sometimes there's enforcers that are looking for people who stand out, even in the regular suit

That's not the only map with enforcers who will spot you through the suit

Play casual if you can't handle it

Professional Mode is literally Normal Mode from HITMAN 2016 with some tweaks.
Master Mode is the difficult "Pro" mode of this game.

Originally posted by Epic47Sides:

That enforcer change was made to encourage you to use new crowd blending/foliage system.

I was against it at the beginning...but it sort of makes sense that some people could spot you no matter how well you're hidden.

The problem is that the enforcer still gets pissed off at Agent 47 in his default suit in a public area.
I get that they're trying to implement the new crowd mechanic in Season One but this is silly, it makes a lot more sense if 47 is in disguise, not in his civilian clothes.
Sure, bypassing the new enforcer is very easy to do but the mere fact that he's an enforcer against 47 who is not in disguise yet is still dumb.

Originally posted by Kiroshi:

It's also been well established that the ICA and other agencies are used by the rich and powerful people we target. So it totally makes logical sense they would have people trained to spot people 'blending in'.

This sort of makes sense but that doesn't explain why the rest of the CICADA bodyguards don't give a ♥♥♥♥ unless he's trespassing in unauthorised areas.

[HoneyDrake]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

What rule is it breaking ? They say enforcers can spot you. This enforcer is spotting you.

This.

47 is not unknown, someone going around, having an barcode on the back of their head, is more than just suspicious.

[LoseSanity]

47 is not unknown atleast to the elite of the world.
The maint point in master difficulty and its enforcers who spot you even in civilian clothing is that they are the people who are specifically looking for assassins, and you got to admit, 47 does look pretty odd, even middle of civilian crowd.

[Bouncer]

47 is a legend in his field. If a guard is aware of the legends about a bald, barcoded man in a tux who kills wealthy and influential people, and you see someone exactly like that while you're busy protecting some weahlthy and influential person, you can get suspicious enough to try and halt the guy to question him.

Just a theory. Does it sound sensible?

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by Johnny Two Tips:

Yeah that was weird to me too. That and they changed the surgeon outfit when going in Hokkaido as Jason Portman.

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

What rule is it breaking ? They say enforcers can spot you. This enforcer is spotting you.

He means that guy detects you even if you're wearing the default outifts. It's not a restricted area so it's weird.

I know, what I meant is the game never made a rule about the look of 47 to be unknown, he's been around for a while now, to me it feels normal the enforcers who are elite guard know or heard of someone suspicious who looks like him. Lets not forget his base suit is under the identity of Tobias which guards might find suspicious if they never heard of him and have him show up at a vip event.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

You're playing professional, sometimes there's enforcers that are looking for people who stand out, even in the regular suit

That's not the only map with enforcers who will spot you through the suit

Play casual if you can't handle it

Professional Mode is literally Normal Mode from HITMAN 2016 with some tweaks.

"with some tweaks"

Which was all professional mode was in the previous game: normal "with some tweaks"

You clearly didn't play enough professional in the last game to realize how much it shares with the new professional mode

1. You die much faster in professional (here and in the previous game) compared to normal (death rate in old normal is casual now)

2. Cameras respond to your illegal activity in professional (here and in the previous game) compared to normal (where they dont, nor do they in casual here)

3. There are addtional enforcers in camera rooms in professional (look in sapienza mansion or hokkaido basement) compared to them not being there (in either normal before or casual now)

Compared to the last game it's a more relaxed professional, but it's still closer to professional than it is to normal

"Its just normal with some tweaks" well freaking duh that's all professional was last time too

Casual here is the old normal, Master is the old professional and the new pro sits in between but is closer to old pro than old normal

[Burgersarefun]

Originally posted by Bouncer:

47 is a legend in his field. If a guard is aware of the legends about a bald, barcoded man in a tux who kills wealthy and influential people, and you see someone exactly like that while you're busy protecting some weahlthy and influential person, you can get suspicious enough to try and halt the guy to question him.

Just a theory. Does it sound sensible?

So there is just ONE random guard that is suspicious of 47? Not the head of security, not any of the other guards who are in the public area, but just one guard is suspicious?